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FALCON PUNCH!
Posted on Friday, September 5 2008 @ 16:55:09 Eastern

            Around a few forums lately, I've been spotting a lot of threads about the fighting in a lot of video games. I'll start with Metal Gear Solid 4, making an example of "CQC". Now, given my martial arts background, I'm naturally attracted to these types of threads. I like to throw in my two cents and right some wrongs, or simply read and laugh at a lot of the posts. The particular thread about this "CQC" asked: What is CQC? UFC, Karate, Juditsu, Kung Fu? What is it?

             First of all, I would like to point out that Juditsu is not a real form of martial arts. It sounds like a mix of Judo and Jui Jitsu to me. That's odd because Judo was derived from Jui Jitsu, and Brazillian Jui Jitsu was derived from Judo and the traditional (read: Japanese) Jui jitsu.

             Secondly, I simply laughed when I saw UFC. I guess I should have expected it, given that there's some form of it on Spike nearly every time I pass that channel. I suppose it has become so simplified that instead of breaking it down into what it actually is, people made it as simple as they could for themselves. UFC would be MMA, which stands for Mixed Martial Arts, which would then of course break down into Judo and Tae Kwon Do, for example. People have been doing this with their video games for a long time now, as well. In the case of MGS4 (truly an excellent game), our protagonist, Old Snake (Solid Snake, if you're too nostalgic like myself) knows this mystical style called Close Quarters Combat, or simply CQC. The big misconseption of this is that people believe it is actually a style of martial arts.

Ok, people, you're almost right. CQC is not a martial art, but rather a tactic. I could turn a corner and shove my thumbs into somebodys eyes and then knee them in the groin and call it CQC. It's close quarters, and it's combat. I could just as easily turn the corner and stab the guy in the throat. Either way, its combat in close quarters. It is the idea of effective fighting in a limited space environment. Much like Krav Maga, Combat Hapkido (my favorite!), Systema, or even back to the original Jeet Kune Do, the idea of CQC is using what works most effectively, and dropping the rest.

     Alright, hold on...I need to go grab a drink....and I've returned. Anyway, I sometimes wonder if all of the self proclaimed black belts on every forum about anything related to martial arts have actually put any thought to their arguments about this. To me it sounds like they're just trying to enhance that e-peen of theirs, or just trying to look intelligent on the internet. Telling me that you're going to come karate chop my head off because I told you that a reverse jumping hook kick (think MGS2, punch punch kick) isn't a good idea in a real fight just doesn't do anything for me. I guess if we ever meet up somewhere, you can feel free to try it. I guess I'll just walk away while you spin into the atmosphere. I hope you don't hit the sun.

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  • De-Ting
    De-Ting

    Joined: Nov 2006
    Posted: Sep 5th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
    Falcon PWNCH! I've developed my own CQC with training from Budo-Taijutsu. As few may know, the best offense is a strong defense.
  • Master_Craig
    Master_Craig

    Joined: Jul 2006
    Posted: Sep 5th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
    Well said, oneshotstop! I completely agree. While I have limited martial arts experience (although I have been considering to start studying Judo), I noticed something different, about "CQC". I know it's just a video game, but when you watch Old (Solid) Snake take on the bad guys with CQC in game, it all looks so tactical, like, doing whatever you can to simply just survive. I agree with you that CQC is not really a "style", but more or less a "tactic". It makes me think of as you pointed out, Krav Maga (I've read up a bit on that) and the Keysi Fighting Method. I don't know where I'm going with this, but I guess in conclusion - great words, I completely agree.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 5th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
    I would have to agree, De-Ting. Most of my Judo is defensive. I can really throw some people around. Especially when they're angry. They take big swings. The harder they swing, the harder they fall. And Master Craig, I would suggest you take Judo. It's pretty fun, but not only is it fun, it is a very good self defense style. Concrete hits harder than a punch every time. And most fights will end up on the ground, and if you get a good school, they'll teach ground fighting. You should take one martial art as a base for maybe, 6 months. Then add on to it. I started with Judo, and added TKD and Combat Hapkido later. Go find a judo place and start throwing people! haha
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 6th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    thanks for the comments guys, by the way haha.
  • Solaris10
    Solaris10

    Joined: Mar 2008
    Posted: Sep 6th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
    Interesting topic. I never done any form of martial arts but I do know the basis you said oneshotstop the harder you strike, the more it's gonne turn against you. I might try Judo someday seems neat! Also in a fight, I wonder if targetting the knees or the neck is a good idea anyway great blog.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 6th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
    Targeting the knees is actually a very good way to end a fight before it truly begins. People can't really fight back if they can't walk. Going for the neck, while effective, can be dangerous. Its just a fight so you don't want to kill them. Unless they've got a gun to your face. Then kill 'em, i say. You could go for chokes though. A well applied blood choke will knock someone out in 4 to 6 seconds. But really, you should fight dirty. Kick in the groun, pokes in the eyes. Do what you have to do.
  • gonzar09
    gonzar09

    Joined: Jun 2007
    Posted: Sep 6th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
    There's no such thing as fighting dirty anymore, as my former master said to me. As i have seen, most fighting in the world today is done in two ways - by surprise, and/or completely unfairly. When you're on the street, most people (as was quoted by a friend of mine) would most likely pull out a gun or knife before they even think to fight with their hands AND by themselves WITHOUT the intention of killing you. There doesn't seem to be too much honor there anymore. OSS, what you say here is passionate and hits me as words from experience. Keep up the good work, and stay safe brother.
  • Master_Craig
    Master_Craig

    Joined: Jul 2006
    Posted: Sep 7th, 2008 at 5:15 am
    There is a Judo place where I am at, oneshotstop. But thank you for recommending it regardless, I appreciate it. I have not yet taken it up because I have two issues, firstly to begin with I am somewhat swamped in regards to my university students (this is my final semester, which I will be finishing within eight or so weeks time) and secondly, I am pretty nervous about taking up Judo. I am not sure why. Physically I seem okay, I have done much weight training (not to sound weird but I am a big, physically strong person) however I am somewhat lacking in actual fitness training (which I will be trying to improve, once I get over this sickness of mine, had it for a week or so). Thanks regardless. When I am better and when I get a bit fitter, I will probably try and take up Judo (although, the person who runs the nearby Judo place, I contacted and he claims "fitness level can be any level" when I asked him over e-mail about the recommended fitness level).
  • Master_Craig
    Master_Craig

    Joined: Jul 2006
    Posted: Sep 7th, 2008 at 5:17 am
    Er, sorry I meant *university WORK, not students I am a student myself, swamped with lots of work, ha ha XD, sorry for that!
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 7th, 2008 at 11:10 am
    the man is correct. I am not a big muscle bound guy or anything like that. Judo works just as well if your opponent is much stronger as it does when you are. But if you're not comfortable, don't take it.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 7th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
    Look in to Combat Hapkido instead haha
  • Icepick
    Icepick

    Joined: Dec 2002
    Posted: Sep 8th, 2008 at 8:17 am
    Your issues with "MMA" is laughable given the fact most competitors have a black belt in at least 1 field, and work on others constantly, it's what would happen if we mixed up the martial artists and had them fight hence mixed martial arts., you kind of trail off and never explain what you find silly in the UFC aside from "its for the stoopidz" I'm sorry that theres BJJ?? Nor do you mention non belt forms, not every martial art has to have a belt, I've been taking boxing and thai boxing for years, still a martial art, and still far more effective than most of the martial arts you mentioned in terms of mixed combat, or even CQB Hapkido is a good word to toss out to make it seem like you know what you're talking about by the way, good bonus point there
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 8th, 2008 at 10:33 am
    My issues aren't with MMA or UFC. I was talking about the people. I don't find anything wrong with MMA, honestly. I would qualify under MMA, myself. I was talking about the over simplification of the people who watch it. And I don't know what makes this martial art any more effective than that one, it's just a matter of who does what and when they do it. I can write a blog about that particular subject, too, if you'd like. I'll ask however that you really read it before making your comments. I'd rather not argue, thanks!
  • used44
    used44

    Joined: Mar 2002
    Posted: Sep 8th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
    You basically just told us what CQC stands for. Thanks, instruction manual!
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 9th, 2008 at 6:48 am
    read the second to last paragraph again, used44.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 9th, 2008 at 6:48 am
    but you're welcome, I guess haha
  • Tykk
    Tykk

    Joined: May 2007
    Posted: Oct 9th, 2008 at 8:45 am
    Just for the record, it's JIU-jitsu, no JUI-Jitsu =]
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Oct 9th, 2008 at 10:51 am
    my bad :p
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Oct 13th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
    wait a minute, Icepick. Hapkido is a good word to throw around to.blah blah. Are you serious? Have you done Combat Hapkido? I didn't think so. You can't say that Thai Boxing is more effective than another martial art. It may be more suited to you, but others may find that's not the case. Combat Hapkido has taught me the use of my elbows, knees, shins, as well as the traditional feet and fists. Tae Kwon Do is all about striking with the hands and feet, so how can you say that Thai Boxing is more effective than another art that does the same thing? There's no significant difference in your punch than in mine, and the same goes for your kicks, elbows, knees, whatever you've got. It all comes down to who can use what they know more effectively. You can't deny this. That's how it works.

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