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Posted on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 14:01:47 Eastern

As a child, I was always interested in war. I had it in my head that since my mother was in the Air Force, as well as my father, that they had both been to war. They had me hooked on the military life style. I tried to learn about anything and everything I could. I would love to roll around in the dirt with a gun in my hands! I even took it so far as to use hand signals when we played with our super soakers!

So then I grew up a little, but only in body. I was still facinated with the military. For Christmas one year, my parents got paintball guns for me and my brothers. This sparked a new facination for me. Now I could actually shoot stuff! I had to think about the wind, the distance, the movement of my targets...etc. It was wonderful! My first real introduction into ballistics, though on a small scale. Paintballs obviously don't travel very far, but the idea is still the same. I got into camouflage, and even so far as makeshift Ghillie suits, squad orders, stealth, tactical movement...so on and so forth.

Then I took up Martial Arts. This was more for self defense and fitness than anything else, but I knew it would apply in the Military world. Every soldier needs combatives, afterall. But the whole idea of being in the Military and running around with a gun shooting down the bad guys always seemed like such a great time! I couldn't wait until I could join up and go fight!

Well, I joined up, and I'm going to fight. But suddenly I feel as though everything I knew as a child is gone. How fun can it be to roll around in the dirt, while getting shot at? How can it be fun to actually pull the trigger on somebody? To end a life in a split second. The thought never occured to me. What if I had to use my Martial Arts to defend my life? It's different when the guy just wants to break my nose. What if I have to klil somebody with my bare hands? Who can say when or where the IED will explode? How do I know if the kid has TNT strapped under his blanket? Where's the fun in watching friends get killed? The horrors of war that can bring the strongest man to tears...and I thought it would be fun?

I've got to tell ya, reader, I'm scared. War isn't some big game we like to play. I'm going to shatter somebody's family. I'm going to take away somebody's father, or brother, or son. I wish I was a better informed kid.

 

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  • shandog137
    shandog137

    Joined: Mar 2007
    Posted: Sep 22nd, 2008 at 6:57 am
    Well, there is no turning back now. Regardless of what has been taught, you are an adult now and need to make an informed decision as to what needs to be done. My suggestion is to apply to non-battle type positions while your enlisted. You obviously don't want to get a disonhonorable discharge so your going to have the make the best of the time YOU signed up for. There are plenty of shitty jobs you can volunteer for that need to be done but no one wants to do. You seem like your not ready to have the responsibility of someones life in your hands which is reasonable, but you do have to play a part for YOUR choice. Regardless of how well you were informed or lack there of you need to choose how you go forward with what you know now.
  • shandog137
    shandog137

    Joined: Mar 2007
    Posted: Sep 22nd, 2008 at 6:57 am
    Consider., would you rather be the guy cleaning the honey buckets for several year with little to no prestige or be the guy who gets awards for valor but can't sleep at night and his body weight in guilt hanging over him. Either way you gotta decide and at
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 am
    Yea.I'm all over that one. I've come down to just accept whatever happens. I'll take a life if my own is in danger, but they better not expect me to just kill all day long. I'm already signed up for Security Forces, and will be getting some sort of law degree while I'm in, but when I get deployed I'll be running convoys or something. I'm not worried about house to house fighting. I know it's going to be a horrible experience, but I know it needs to be done. I knew what I was getting into when I signed the papers and saluted the Captain, I just started to really think about it lately.
  • Shaner
    Shaner

    Joined: Nov 2006
    Posted: Sep 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
    This is a touchy subject but I thought I'd say what should be said. Remember, before you have to answer to the government or even society as a whole, you must answer to your self. Do not live your life based on what the world has deemed normal. There is nothing normal about taking the life of another human for ANY reason. It is not natural, and it is completely reasonable to have doubts about it. There IS still time to turn back. No one can force you to kill anyone. If it sounds like I am trying to encourage you to desert it's because I am :). Do what you know is right and you cannot fail. I know if it were me I'd sooner be imprisoned than take the life of another.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 22nd, 2008 at 5:53 pm
    Well, I wouldn't feel right with myself knowing that I could have saved a life as well. I would rather go over there and not fire a shot, but if it came down to a friend of mine (any allied soldier, i guess) being ambushed by the hostiles, I would rather save his life than run away. Its that whole "Kill one, save two" thing. With any sort of miracle this war will be over in the next 2 months. Right.
  • Shaner
    Shaner

    Joined: Nov 2006
    Posted: Sep 22nd, 2008 at 11:51 pm
    If you can save lives without firing a shot there is nothing more honorable. However violence is cyclical. There will never be a war to end all wars. This war may end in two months but how long until we're in another one? The United States has gone to war roughly every 20 years since it was founded. Just remember those hostiles have families and friends just the same as your allies.

    In any case, I wish you luck. I couldn't even imagine undertaking the burden you have. Just remember that violence does not have to be met with violence. There are other ways to combat evil in the world.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 23rd, 2008 at 12:56 am
    Yea I touched on the families thing in a long conversation with somebody just yesterday. I made her cry! This really is a horrible thing. War can not ever end well, and you're right.it won't ever end either. There will always be something to fight about. Fighting for pride on the football field is nothing compared to fighting for your life in a warzone. I just hope I make it out ok.
  • DBucks8
    DBucks8

    Joined: Nov 2005
    Posted: Sep 24th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
    Good luck man. Just look at it this way: you value life. That is more than what can be said for a good majority of the people who have signed up willingly, or have ever pointed a weapon at someone. I hope you make it out alright. This is a crappy war based off of imperialistic values. Best wishes, keep respecting life.
  • Lethean
    Lethean

    Joined: Jan 2001
    Posted: Sep 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
    The military is an exceptional career, you seem smart and intellectual enough to get through it. Don\'t over think it, you\'ll be fine. Don\'t start worrying about PTS and becoming afraid until your done with your basic and advanced training and you\'re in the ****. It isn\'t as dramatic as you may think it to be (or it just may be the way you worded it and you didn\'t mean to make it sound dramatic at all) and there are no super soldiers. You\'re only human. You\'ll feel that everything you learnt on your own is useless when you\'re in your basic.
  • Lethean
    Lethean

    Joined: Jan 2001
    Posted: Sep 24th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
    You won\'t get a chance to shine and you\'ll know \"I can handle this, just get me to the advanced occupational training\", you\'ll know the lingo, you\'ll know the hand signals and firing techniques, you\'ll wonder if you wasted time learning martial arts because they aren\'t teaching you. I\'m sure you also know they want you to forget everything you went in knowing, and relearn it and use it when *they*
  • LetheanDreams
    LetheanDreams

    Joined: Jan 2001
    Posted: Sep 24th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
    want you too. You\\\'re their new hundreds of thousands of dollars toy. You may end up in the **** forced to kill with \\\"your bare hands\\\", you may not. Just remember, basic is 70 percent mental, 30 percent physical.If you start having doubts now, what will happen three weeks in when they\'re breaking you down? Supression of the feelings isn't a good thing but in this case maybe it's best to try and take your mind off of it and worry about it after your training.
  • LetheanDreams
    LetheanDreams

    Joined: Jan 2001
    Posted: Sep 24th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
    If you can't get past it, you can always break your contract and be honourably discharged.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: Sep 24th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
    Well that's good insight, Lethean. I thank you for that. And yea, I've been told that they're gonna want me to forget what I know. I, of course, will not. Should they make us spar in tech school (security forces), I wont hesitate haha. I'll just look at it as "i already know this, and its just a refresher". Afterall, its just the Air Force, right? haha And I've been trying to keep my mind off of the war. I'm not worried about basic training or anything.after having a whole family go through it (really! mom, dad, 2 brothers) I've been told what to expect, I've seen the DVDs they give out now (saw someone doing the robot in the gas chamber o.O) . I know I'm in shape enough. I just dont like the idea of going to warbut I knew that when I signed up.it just never really dawned on me like this.
  • Odbarc
    Odbarc

    Joined: Apr 2007
    Posted: Sep 24th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
    I forget where I heard this (probably a CoD review) that says "War is only enjoyable for those who have never experienced it."
  • Bub
    Bub

    Joined: Nov 2005
    Posted: Sep 26th, 2008 at 3:46 am
    Well what u will be doing over there will hopefully help to make the country a better place, u might not make a big change but over time its hopefully going to change it for the better. I which u good luck and hope u get back. Odbrac i think the quote is from WW2, might even be older. Just having problems remebering who said it
  • drew502
    drew502

    Joined: Jul 2007
    Posted: Sep 26th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
    basic human nature that nobody wants to end someone else's life but, we must take desperate measures sometimes. Just remember that those people over there are just people and dont assume they're all trying to kill you. one day this nobody will have to go to war like this.
  • oneshotstop
    oneshotstop

    Joined: Sep 2008
    Posted: May 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
    I'm going to put up a part 2 to this one, now that I'm out of basic and just about operational Security Forces.

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