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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Spec Ops: The Line |OT| Gentlemen, welcome to Dubai Reply with quote



GENRE Action 
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PUBLISHER 2K Games 
DEVELOPER YAGER 
RELEASE DATE 06/26/2012

Spec Ops: The Line is a provocative, cinematic third-person military shooter that challenges players’ own morality by putting them in the middle of unspeakable depravity where brutal life-or-death choices take them on a journey into the heart of darkness.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody play the demo? It kind of sucks! It's a bit like Bad Company (goofy squadmates!), but plays like Conflict: Desert Storm (junk). The cover mechanic is clunky. The zooming is awkward. The invisible walls are annoying. The exploding heads are unnecessary.

Why did they launch a demo so long before the game was final? Maybe it's all going to be fixed by release.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anthony really liked this, but I've had no impression of it whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This demo was awful, the cover and shooting were not smooth at all and that's the meat and potatoes of a FPS, soooooo....

I hate sounding like that gamer, but you made an OT for what looks to be another unimpressive shooter.

Anthony...pshhhh-aw!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I know it sucks. The OT is all copy pasta anyway.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:25 pm    Post subject: Spec Ops demo Reply with quote

I played the "Spec Ops: The Line" demo earlier this year and I enjoyed it.

The 3rd person gameplay was good enough, nothing outstanding. How sand can potentially affect combat situations was kind of interesting, though.

I wonder how the whole "questionable morality" concept will play into the actual game, or if it's just for the sake for a "gritty" storyline.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the storyline is the most interesting part of the game.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

used44 wrote:


"Apparently the storyline is the most interesting part of the game."


Really? Cool: then I look forward to experiencing it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah definitely. I wouldn't recommend it if not for the story.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GAME-QUEST-EX wrote:
used44 wrote:


"Apparently the storyline is the most interesting part of the game."


Really? Cool: then I look forward to experiencing it.

Spoiler free:
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/spec-ops-the-line-part-1

And the spoilers:
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/spec-ops-the-line-part-2

Don't judge the game on the demo, seriously. Don't!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lien wrote:

Spoiler free:
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/spec-ops-the-line-part-1

And the spoilers:
http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/spec-ops-the-line-part-2

Don't judge the game on the demo, seriously. Don't!


Interesting: thanks for those links. Well, I'm already an "Extra Credits" fan, but I hadn't seen these episodes. I checked out the spoiler-free one, at least.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just started it. I like it much more than my initial reaction to the demo. I'm only 3 chapters in, so I haven't reached any of the interesting story stuff, really.

One thing I already LOVE is the pacing. I'm playing on Hard (or whatever) difficulty and I haven't had a chance to catch my breath or re-equip. I'm carrying around a weak shotgun and an empty AK-47. That's a really neat design choice for a campaign.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to play this game...

So I will. I'm gonna start it up as soon as I'm done with lunch.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Used, I think that was one of the more engaging parts of the game. THe only times I remembered to use my team mates was when I was out of ammo. I'd set up covering fire and make a run for a gun.

Honestly, there are some clunky pieces to the game and the mechanics don't set it above other shooters, but the story and pacing are amazing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longo_2_guns wrote:
I need to play this game...

So I will. I'm gonna start it up as soon as I'm done with lunch.

I would join you, but I'm playing GoW 2 now. However, still downloaded it, because it's free with PS Plus
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I made it to chapter... five? So far, it's pretty interesting. I keep dying due to the silly cover mechanics, though. So that's a pain.

Also, I accidentally hit the trigger on a Mexican stand off in chapter 4 and my allies took it as a cue and shot the guy dead. WHOOPS!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing makes me feel more like a failure than the screen inviting me to try a softer difficulty after I fail the same gunfight five times in a row.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This game should have been like... an hour shorter. Anyone gone on the truck ride yet?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nothing makes me feel more like a failure than the screen inviting me to try a softer difficulty after I fail the same gunfight five times in a row.


Wait until you get the screen saying "Don't Worry. You are still a nice person."
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I finished it recently, and this game probably wins my "What Could Have Been...." prize for this generation. There were some great aspects & moments that could have been the foundation for a landmark game. I apparently didn't find it as difficult as you guys though, except for the big fight at the end.
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