The N Word

UrbanMasque · Don't Feed Him Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 5283

Really?
With a Capital "N"?!
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LinksOcarina · The Anti-Fanboy Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 11117

So what is more important, context of the word being said in the modern day, or context of the word as a cultural aspect of racism?

I remember a TV show attempted to wrestle with what the word actually means for people of numerous backgrounds, but it didn't go further than just having kids talk about it and why it's appropriate for some, inappropriate for others.

In the end, the answer is too complex really to grasp any form of consensus. Even if used in context, saying minority friend of mine is always derogatory, even if it is a part of their own vernacular when they speak, context be damned.

The real question should be exploring the word and its history, and how the use has changed over time. Does that make it ok? No. But it does give us insight as to why it is thrown around the way it is.
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Lien · Die Hard Commie Bastard Joined: 01 Feb 2008 Posts: 2752

What link said. Creating a "Force meme" will not solve the N-word issue or any other racial/ethnic offensive language problem. Instead, study the word and respect your neighbors. Better to have friends who respects you then enemies you tried to forcibly convince.

And FYI, typing the N-word in the GR forum = "minority friend of mine".
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UrbanMasque · Don't Feed Him Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 5283

That word, and the weight attached to it, are based on the context.

There are few instances where you can use it an not have it referencing a minority needing to "know there place". Use of it usually implies subjugation of some point MANY TIMES without even knowing the person you're using it to refer to.

I've known white people to use that word around me, no biggie - and I've known white people to use that word AT me - Big fucking problem. Context matters. On the other hand, I don't think people should lose the anxiety around that word because it amounts to forgetting history - History that people would like to ignore.

Its interesting to see the many ways people are finding ways around that word though.
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Sourdeez · Does it use DX11?!? Joined: 12 Feb 2012 Posts: 1123

My father works as a prison sergeant in a prison. A black prisoner once yelled at him "You cant make me do this, Im not a slave!"

His reply was "Slavery was wrong, Now how are we going to move on from it?"
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UrbanMasque · Don't Feed Him Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 5283

What state is your prison in?
-I agree with the statement "you can't make me do this".
A Prisoners' punishment is being separated from society not turning them into slave labor. Now if they volunteer to learn a skill while inside then sign them up, but forcing them to work on a chain gang or other stuff is above and beyond the terms of their imprisonment.

My brother is a corrections officer in Rikers..
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Sourdeez · Does it use DX11?!? Joined: 12 Feb 2012 Posts: 1123

It was in Illinois. He just retired but he always said the prisoners had alot of respect for him after saying that. He once even had a guy go into a fake seizure and slap him upside the head and while the guy was freaking out on the ground(The prisoner thought he would be tackled or beaten) My father just says "Calm down its officer *last name*" The inmate apologized to him later. It really is proof to just how much progress can be made by treating each other with respect.
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spartan317 · Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 587

Respect, honesty and humor. The three things that will get you through life happy and without regret
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Optimus-Crime · bananable Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 797

Mod-Chip · Senior Idler Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 7334

Optimus-Crime · bananable Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 797

ahh fuck. I'd forgotten how pedantic this can all become.

Sourdeez · Does it use DX11?!? Joined: 12 Feb 2012 Posts: 1123

Oh man, No word flows so beautifully and easily off the tongue like "cunt"
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“Yeah but when does EA come in when your trying for auto erotic asphyxiation and decide that you are really trying to commit suicide? Then they force you to do what they want.”

MattAY · Posh B**tard Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 10829

Let's see if we can get IntotheRain in here...make it a three-way battle.
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Mod-Chip · Senior Idler Joined: 26 Dec 2001 Posts: 7334

Optimus-Crime · bananable Joined: 03 Mar 2012 Posts: 797

1. you've exceeded the curse word limit for one sentence which is somehow an even bigger fail considering you've used them ironically.
2. we're not looking at BlackStar's point from the same point of view. We haven't from the start. While I thought it was an interesting, humorous take on the word you went all socioeconomic-geopolitical, which, despite the tone you may be reading this in, I'm all for, but we're playing to different crowds now. The "Drug Use/Religion Thread" doesn't play around here no more. also, not everything has to be~~DrAmAaaAAaAA~~~`k thx u gais
3. "The 'N-word'? Uh, I want to hear from the two spics!" That's probably not what MattAY and crumpet-ny were looking for. So...rap battle?

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UrbanMasque · Don't Feed Him Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 5283