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Longo_2_guns
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:17 am    Post subject: Demon's Souls! Reply with quote

So, now that this is free for all PSN+ members, who wants to play? We could do a playdate, or Dan can stream it!

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man. I just remember hating this game. I appreciated it for what it was...but...eff that dragon.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: Demon's Souls! Reply with quote

Longo_2_guns wrote:
So, now that this is free for all PSN+ members, who wants to play? We could do a playdate, or Dan can stream it!

Very Happy

wave2 Hellooooo? Did you forget me?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bretimus_v2 wrote:
Oh man. I just remember hating this game. I appreciated it for what it was...but...eff that dragon.


You talking about for black tendency on the ramparts? It's embarassing to say but I literally spent 6+ hours on that area one night. I was absolutely determined to get passed it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Demon's Souls! Reply with quote

UghRochester wrote:
Longo_2_guns wrote:
So, now that this is free for all PSN+ members, who wants to play? We could do a playdate, or Dan can stream it!

Very Happy

wave2 Hellooooo? Did you forget me?

I don't wanna see you angry, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the first time friends came over to see the game, and then watched me plink arrows into that dang dragon until it died. They were not impressed until they watched me get stunlocked by chubby Cthulhu and flying angry manta rays.

I'd love to see a stream just for the schadenfreude, especially if the player is new to this fresh hell. Also, worse area: Valley of Defilement or Blighttown? Tower of Latria or those archers in Anor Londo?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valley of Defilement and Tower of Latria are far better, due to framerate and less bullshit. And while Blighttown is completely skippable, you can just as easily run like a motherfucker straight through 5-1 or 5-2.

I know, I've done it as an SL1 Royalty to get the spells.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, although that is rarely how I went through it, purely because I was terrified of those giant goblins near the last island before the fog gate in 5-2. What I wouldn't have given for the rusted ring in DeS.

5-1 and 5-2 seemed like Megaman levels, wherein the bosses were often pitifully easy compared to the slog that the levels were.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was actually pretty well done, I think, in terms of boss difficulty in proportion to level difficulty. If it's possible to shortcut straight to the end of the level, the boss is hard. If not, the boss is super easy.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm downloading it now but I know nothing of this game except that it's a hard action game. And I suck balls at hard action games like DMC 3 and Ninja Gaiden so you may need to hold my hand through it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good news is...it's nothing like those games. It's slow, methodical and punishing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those games are like "haha! see how fast i killed you?" Demon's/Dark Souls are "i killed you and i'm gonna keep killing you until you figure out why."
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, those games are all about combos and speed. This is about learning and timing. It's half Castlevania, half speed chess, and half magic.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyro is a hell of a lot easier in Dark Souls, at least in the beginning, btw. Just saying I've been chipping away but of course I get distracted and have to relearn everything all over again.

still much faster.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you need an easy class to play, Royal.

Of course, if you want to be a man, do Soldier or Knight. Those are the best.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick rundown for those greatly frustrated:

-For DeS beginners, Royal is the best starting class, since you start with a ranged spell and a ring that regenerates MP.
-You cannot level up until you beat the first boss, Phalanx. The skeletons in 4-1 (Archstone of the Shadowmen) are the best early spot to grind out souls IMO, plus, they hit hard enough you have to learn to dodge/parry/block quickly.
-4-1 also has a great early weapon and shield, the Crescent Falchion and Adjudicator Shield, if you can brave some scary enemies.
-Rings are your friend, especially the Thief Ring.
-Tower of Latria and Valley of Defilement are probably best left for after you are comfortable with controls and builds.
-Be paranoid, and LISTEN. Most enemies have idle noises, or make them once they go notice you.

That said, I agree with Longo insofar as manly mode is to ignore my advice and roll with a Soldier or Knight. Temple Knight in a pinch.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh jeeez this sounds hard. I'm going online and finding the best 13 year old there is to help me through it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WickedLiquid wrote:
Oh jeeez this sounds hard. I'm going online and finding the best 13 year old there is to help me through it.

I love games that are challenging. Then again, I got pissed off before when facing some of the colossi in Shadow of the Colossus.
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WickedLiquid wrote:
Oh jeeez this sounds hard. I'm going online and finding the best 13 year old there is to help me through it.

It's not that bad. If you run in like I AM AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE! you're going to die. But death isn't THAT big of a deal.
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