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Hubmaier



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Help a newb out! Reply with quote

OK, so maybe this isn't the spot for this, but if so, I will take the banhammer on the chin, thank-you-very-much.

I've been researching for over a month now on putting together my first gaming PC since 1998, and I feel like the tech has just left me behind. I distinctly remember drooling over IBM's Deskstar 16GP Titan, which if I remember correctly was cutting edge at 17 gigs... lol.

So help an old guy out. I have 1.1K to spend and I just don't have the time or the energy to recover from being out of the game for fifteen years. I'd like to think that I still have the skills to put the thing together myself, so I can do this thing piecemeal if that's the better route these days. Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out Jonathan's PC buying guide. It's extremely helpful.

http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/pc-gaming-is-cheaper-than-you-think-heres-a-guide

It was posted in January so the prices might even be lower due to new tech releases.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathan's guide is pre-haswell, so it doesn't apply too much nowadays.

Before i get too started, some questions:
-Is this PC going to be exclusively gaming, or does it need to do other power-requiring tasks (video editing / conversions, 3D stuff, etc)?
-Do you have any space, heat or noise restrictions for the PC itself?
-Do we also need to include a monitor, keyboard+mouse and maybe speakers in the 1.1k price range?
-Where do you live (US, Canada, Australia etc)?

A basic modern build for that budget would include an Intel i5-4670k, a decent Z78 motherboard - probably from ASRock, an Nvidia GTX770 or AMD HD7970 ghz, 16gb of dual channel DDR3 probably from G.Skill or Corsair and a 128gb SSD, probably from Samsung. 1 or 2tb of HDD.

This varies only a little bit depending on your previous answers and what if any hardware you have laying around.


As for putting it together yourself, it's extraordinarily easy. I had never built a computer before i built my current one, and it took me under 3hrs including a Windows install. It's literally a matter of plugging the cables into clearly marked holes. You don't even really have to mess around with the BIOS, and when you do you get an easy to use UEFI. Building it is 100% the way to go.
Also note that the budget won't account for Windows 7 as we're gonna assume you'll torrent a copy.
Don't feel too bad about torrenting Win7 - i've offered people on this forum in the past a Win7 CD key from one of my old laptops if they need to clear their conscience, and you can have the same. I have 5 keys sitting around and only 2 active PCs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting basic PCs together has gotten easier. Even liquid cooling has gotten easier but can require the correct case.
I'm a crazy modder so I'll take cheap cases and modify them for my needs.

Here is a kind of a important question. Do you live in California? Due to tax restrictions you may want to use tiger direct.
Otherwise I prefer newegg or amazon

I'm assuming you will need a widescreen monitor. Keyboard, mouse, powerstrip?
Do you need speakers or headphones?
Are you planning on player PC games from the 4 years and beyond?

Once you decide what parts you want and they come in you can watch this video.
Its a excellent video for people looking to watch a pc being built with the information you need.
http://youtu.be/d_56kyib-Ls

If you have any problems after that we can definitely help you.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get an Ivy Bridge, 8GB RAM, mid-range GPU, and call it a day. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got the monitor (HDMI equipped, FWIW), keyboard, mouse, speakers, headphones, and powerstrip covered. I'm anal about battery backup, too, so that's done.

While it's certainly not a requirement, it'd be really nice if I could put together something that could handle ProTools 8, and a couple low-demand VSTs.

I'm in the US. I have no restrictions on space, heat, or noise. I'd love to be able to put together something that can last 4+ years. As far as Windows 7 goes, I'm torrenting it as we speak. </notattractingtheNSA'sattention>

Thanks for the help, gentlemen!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, so i've used newegg just for simplicity but if you can get hardware from other places you trust cheaper, go for it:

ASRock Z87 Pro4:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157381

Intel i5-4670k:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899

16gb G.Skill DDR3 (1866mhz) - use GSKILLSAVE10 for 10% off:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231627

GTX770 with non-reference cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130921

Corsair CX-500 Modular:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050

Samsung 840 120gb:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188


That's $1100ish there (after rebates). You'll have to find a case you like and buy a HDD later, so it's a bit over budget. Free shipping, though.

Plus side is that that's an EXTREMELY powerful setup. You could save money with 8gb of ram and a Pro3 motherboard, which would let you factor a case into the cost but that comes at the expense of future-proofing.
1920x1080@120FPS in most games on Medium-to-High settings, and the lack of hyperthreading probably won't make much of a difference in other programs.


If you guys know of any better deals/combos going on, post up.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome. Ya'll are like a bunch of helpful little Communist elves! Once I get this thing put together, I'll put up some photos so you can get warm fuzzies about all your good work and we can have closure to this story arc.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hubmaier wrote:
Awesome. Ya'll are like a bunch of helpful little Communist elves! Once I get this thing put together, I'll put up some photos so you can get warm fuzzies about all your good work and we can have closure to this story arc.


hahaha
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