More Reviews
REVIEWS Devil's Third Review
Creator Tomonobu Itagaki said this game would be “revolutionary.” He was wrong.

Little Battlers eXperience Review
Tiny robots fighting for prizes is better than pocket monsters fighting, right? Right?
More Previews
PREVIEWS Supernova Preview
Primal Game Studios has tuned Supernova since last I saw it, with more commanders, special abilities, and a faster pace.
Release Dates
NEW RELEASES Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Release date: Out Now

Destiny: The Taken King
Release date: 09/15/15

Skylanders SuperChargers
Release date: 09/20/15

LEGO Dimensions
Release date: 09/27/15


LATEST FEATURES MGSV: The Phantom Pain De-Emphasizes Story and It Works
Actually playing Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain is the best part of the game, which may be a first for the series.

Kojima Responds To Konami By Placing More Than 60 Credit Screens In MGSV: The Phantom Pain
Made by Hideo Kojima. Written by Hideo Kojima. Produced by Hideo Kojima. Created by Hideo Kojima. Directed by Hideo Kojima...

LEADERBOARD
Read More Member Blogs
FEATURED VOXPOP Ivory_Soul
Windows 10 Review for Dummies
By Ivory_Soul
Posted on 08/11/15
After all these years, and growing up with Windows 3.1, I have seen an entire evolution of computers and software. Touch screens and large resolutions were a pipe dream just 15 years ago. Now it's the norm. Going from a Packard Bell (yes, before HP) that couldn't run 3D Ultra Mini...

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   SmartFeedSmartFeed   RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
I like to pretend.

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Game Revolution Forum Index -> General Gaming Topics
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
pres50



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 594

PostPosted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: I like to pretend. Reply with quote

So you'll notice a lot of first person shooters these days have implemented the regenerating health technique. The first time I really noticed this way of health loss and regain was when I played Halo for the original Xbox console. The game implemented this feature very smartly in my opinion as you were wearing a suit that had immense power and armor structure just to name a few things. I liked how you did have health though, that's what still made it believable, because when your shield was down and trying o regenerate you had to make sure as shit you weren't taking much damage or else you would lose health bars which would eventually lead to your ultimate demise. Problems I am having these days with the whole regenerating health is it makes less sense than actually having a health bar.

You take a bunch of bullets like the sponge you are, soak them in like the terminator as you find a place to hide and voila you are back in the game in 5 seconds or so 100 percent. In my opinion its just a lazy way to make a health system these days so I pretend that in these games that when you die it is from just one bullet.

Let me explain why, because if you think about it it would make more sense that when your are being shot and your screen is growing ever so red it is because you are in the danger zone and bullets are very close to you (but not hitting you, even though they actually are in the game, that's where the whole pretend part comes in) signaling that you will be hit with a bullet soon and die which is when in reality you have taken 30 shots. I know it may not make sense to everyone but hey I'm trying.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cyberjim2000
Forum Bum


Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Posts: 1842

PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Health regen is there to keep the pace of the game so that you won't have to find a health pack. While a health bar is there so that if you fuck up you won't have to restart the level.

Oh, Delta Force, you are so brutal with your no health bar/regen system. Rainbow Six and SWAT was the same way. Pretty much if you take a full AK burst to the torso, you're dead.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MattAY
Posh B**tard


Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 12796

PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...ok. If you play a game on the hardest difficulty does it not kill you instantly when shields are down after one shot?

I like games that let me sponge bullets, because I suck at video games.

PS - you're not black.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
cyberjim2000
Forum Bum


Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Posts: 1842

PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know any games that has shields so... I guess? Does it also make enemies into bullet sponges themselves?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
WickedLiquid
In Limbo


Joined: 18 Mar 2009
Posts: 7308

PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to pretend I'm an astronaut battling aliens. With shields.

Health regeneration is when games got ridiculously easy. What was once an anxiety attack on the NES/SNES as you tried to stay alive until the next health pick up is now a simple "Oh I'm shot? 'Scuse me while I hide behind this rock. Dum-de-do, ok I'm cool."
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
NickKmet
I Eat Granola Bars


Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 3263

PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyberjim2000 wrote:
Oh, Delta Force, you are so brutal with your no health bar/regen system. Rainbow Six and SWAT was the same way. Pretty much if you take a full AK burst to the torso, you're dead.


I was playing Delta Force: Black Hawk Down, and Delta Force: Team Sabre not long ago. Both of those have health bars, which can be regenerated with health packs. However, if you get shot, you're often fucked because the health bar is so minuscule that it only really helps you if you just get winged (at least on the higher difficulties). So, in that regard it's pretty realistic.
_________________
Kapow wrote:
daylight savings time was introduced under a democratic congress. pretty clear that this is part of the liberal global warming farce, if we are extending daylight hours, of course temperatures will rise, THERES MORE DAYLIGHT!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
De-Ting
Formerly Known as Prince


Joined: 11 Nov 2006
Posts: 8243

PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, it's about as realistic as running over a magic box with a + sign or a piece of chicken, and suddenly being healthy again.

Video games are funny. Would it make more sense if you had to visit a medic and sit out while the game goes on without you every time you get substantially injured?

If it's just a matter of being challenging, then there's plenty of older games out there that do just that, and even some new ones like Resistance 3.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
danielrbischoff



Joined: 13 Nov 2009
Posts: 8938

PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like your theory. I'm going to use it from now on.
_________________
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/halo-the-master-chief-collection
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/tales-of-hearts-r
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/sunset-overdrive
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/wwe-2k15-ps4-xone
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
danielrbischoff



Joined: 13 Nov 2009
Posts: 8938

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry if I killed this thread with all my enthusiasm.
_________________
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/halo-the-master-chief-collection
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/tales-of-hearts-r
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/sunset-overdrive
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/wwe-2k15-ps4-xone
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cyberjim2000
Forum Bum


Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Posts: 1842

PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Jack the Ripper, you did.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Longo_2_guns
Ruler of the Queen's Navy


Joined: 29 Jun 2003
Posts: 16544

PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually think of something different when it comes to "playing pretend." Though that's not appropriate.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address MSN Messenger
pres50



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Posts: 594

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still using that theory Daniel?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
danielrbischoff



Joined: 13 Nov 2009
Posts: 8938

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. Only when it's convenient.
_________________
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/halo-the-master-chief-collection
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/tales-of-hearts-r
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/sunset-overdrive
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/wwe-2k15-ps4-xone
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
UghRochester
Fattest Jedi Around


Joined: 05 Jun 2006
Posts: 7713

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to pretend it's a video game and know factually it could take at least one bullet to die IRL.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
WickedLiquid
In Limbo


Joined: 18 Mar 2009
Posts: 7308

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2014 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to pretend my Jesus as a figure skater who does interpretive dances of my life.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Game Revolution Forum Index -> General Gaming Topics All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Page 1 of 1
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum