More Reviews
REVIEWS Wayward Manor Review
Not even the power of Neil Gaiman and The Odd Gentlemen could save this game from a fate worse than death: a terrible score.

ONE PIECE Unlimited World Red Review
"Unlimited World Red"? More like "Sorta Limited Town and Extended Areas... Red. And Blue. And Some Yellow."
More Previews
PREVIEWS Pillars of Eternity Preview
For Obsidian's crowdfunded love letter to Infinity Engine games like Icewind Dale and Baldur's Gate, I was impressed by its willingness to pull back the curtain and let me see the machinery behind it.
Release Dates
NEW RELEASES Sacred 3
Release date: 08/05/14

CounterSpy
Release date: 08/19/14

Tales of Xillia 2
Release date: 08/19/14

Plants Vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare
Release date: 08/19/14


LATEST FEATURES How Bioware Creates Romances
Bioware's games have romances where you might save the world, on the side of course.

We Absolutely Should Be Upset With Club Nintendo's Latest Elite Rewards
Surveys out the wazoo and I get a code for Dr. Luigi?
MOST POPULAR FEATURES Picking Your Gender: 5 Industry Professionals Discuss Queer Identity in Gaming
Women from Naughty Dog, ArenaNet, Harmonix, and Gamespot unite to talk about what they want from games in terms of diversity.
 
Coming Soon

LEADERBOARD
Read More Member Blogs
FEATURED VOXPOP Kakulukia
Why Sunset Overdrive Can Go Suck A Lemon
By Kakulukia
Posted on 07/14/14
Yesterday, while cleaning up my media center, I found my copy of Ratchet & Clank: Into The Nexus, which I bought sometime before Christmas last year. I had been pretty excited about this game pre-release, what with it being the first "traditional", albeit shorter than usual,...

 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   SmartFeedSmartFeed   RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
The Best Modern RPG Franchises
Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Game Revolution Forum Index -> General Gaming Topics
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
used44



Joined: 08 Mar 2002
Posts: 20689

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would make a good topic for the podcast. I demand a guest comeback appearance by Jonathan!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HK-47
You are all meatbags


Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Posts: 3117

PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's Etrian Odyssey on that list? Was it even close?
_________________
St HK, Boondock Saint
thetank score: 2660

Juggernaut, Hunter of the Gods.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
madster111
The Original Pie Lover


Joined: 04 Jun 2006
Posts: 6259

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do we separate JRPGs?

Mass Effect, Fallout, Elder Scrolls for western.

Also, for anybody who didn't like New Vegas as much as 3, play a fully-patched Ultimate Edition on the PC with the Mission Mojave community patch.
_________________
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abWqy3DOnuA

BarackObama,Putin,DavidCameron,XiJinpingAndseveralothers wrote:
Song of the year, every year.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
tinymhg



Joined: 22 Jun 2011
Posts: 630

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madster111 wrote:
Also, for anybody who didn't like New Vegas as much as 3, play a fully-patched Ultimate Edition on the PC with the Mission Mojave community patch.

Just playing it on a good PC would make it better than on a console. Twisted Evil
_________________
Jonathan_Leack wrote:
I find that extremely condescending by the way.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LinksOcarina
The Anti-Fanboy


Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 11514

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The Best Modern RPG Franchises Reply with quote

Jonathan_Leack wrote:
Y'all know me, still same ol' G, but I've been low key.

I just finished a feature titled Top 10 Modern RPG Video Game Franchises, and I'm hoping to hear what fellow RPG fans think of the genre right now. Here's my list and the article:

10. Rune Factory
9. Tales
8. Monster Hunter
7. Bravely
6. Xeno
5. Fire Emblem
4. The Witcher
3. Persona
2. Souls
1. The Elder Scrolls

http://www.craveonline.com/gaming/articles/642003-top-10-modern-rpg-video-game-franchises

I've certainly been itching for my RPG fix for a few years. Bravely Default is doing an adequate job, but I could use similar in style on a next-gen console. The problem is RPGs take years to develop, so we won't be seeing anything of the sort for a while.


Half of those aren't even modern....

In fact, Souls, Witcher, Monster Hunter, Rune Factory and Bravely Default are all you have.

Quote:
First off, our criteria for a modern RPG franchise is that it must have a recent new release (modern) and have multiple releases and/or more to come in the future (franchise). Yes, this disqualifies The Legend of Dragoon and Chrono. That's their fault not ours.


pretty much includes everything out there (and should knock Bravely Default off immediately, its stupid to break your list rules for one game) Based on this logic a franchise as old as Final Fantasy would be on this list,and that is simply not modern, or as modern as say, something like Demon Souls is, which is a modern RPG game.

You also have a major bias for older franchises that have been around since the 1990s, and have since had time to make better games as time goes on.

Elder Scrolls: Arena 1994
Revelations: Persona 1996
Tales of Phantasia 1995
Xenogears 1998
Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light 1990

Over half of your list traces roots to the 1990s, while Monster Hunter is already a decade old and pushing it since it came out two generations ago.

I would also argue Fire Emblem is a tactical game, and Rune Factory is a life-sim strategy game, over an RPG. But that makes things too murky since hybridization of the genres is fair, so sure, include it.

Another interesting thing I noticed, 8 out of then games are developed in Japan, only two are "western" in any way, if such designations actually matters. They really don't.

Honestly, this list is pretty bad Jon. Not going to lie. When I think modern franchises, I think, franchises that have been introduced last (or in the case of handhelds, this) generation. For PC...its tougher but id say a ten year gap would be fair.

so id keep Witcher, Souls, and Rune Factory since they meet the criteria. Throw in new franchises such as Mass Effect, Borderlands, Legend of Grimrock, Etrain Odyssey, the Sacred Series, Valkyria Chronicles, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance, then you have a much more adequate list.
_________________


Last edited by LinksOcarina on Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
NickKmet
I Eat Granola Bars


Joined: 17 Jan 2007
Posts: 3232

PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What, Links? Franchises only introduced in the last generation? What's the point of that? Why penalize franchises because they had releases more than 7 years ago, as long as they are still releasing quality games today? That's pretty limiting.

I think I see what the problem is. Your'e interpreting modern franchise to mean that the franchise itself is a "new" franchise, which is pretty obviously not what Jon was going for. Rather, franchises that have "modern" releases, and continue to be quality. How many "modern" franchises even exist, by your standard? How many developers can push out more than 2 games in 7 years to create a franchise, and actually have all of those games be high quality?

I don't think the emphasis for the article is the newness of the franchises, but rather that the franchises have recent releases that people could pick up and play without needed to be terribly nostalgic.

Or maybe I'm terribly wrong.
_________________
Kapow wrote:
daylight savings time was introduced under a democratic congress. pretty clear that this is part of the liberal global warming farce, if we are extending daylight hours, of course temperatures will rise, THERES MORE DAYLIGHT!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LinksOcarina
The Anti-Fanboy


Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 11514

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then don't use the word modern. Its being innapropriatly applied to this list.

Even with the emphasis that I quoted being how the list is done, it still becomes a biased list for older games, most of them from Japan, by that logic. at least with my suggestion it allows for more interesting list. at the very least, I named six potential websites that did usher out quality games in the past seven years.
_________________


Last edited by LinksOcarina on Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:06 pm; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Bretimus_v2
The Japazillian Dynasty


Joined: 30 Jan 2009
Posts: 9711

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't get what you're upset about. You're tacking your definitions onto words and forcing your perspective and slicin up genres to fit your argument. Both W and J are RPGs. Fact. That Jon's list differs from yours is ok and you can be ok being ok with it. I promise the bright light of a new day and the hope and promise it brings will take away the gloomy clouds that helped put whatever rod is up your buttocks and remove it henceforth.
_________________
Star-Lord wrote:
I look around and do you know what I see? Losers.


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MattAY
Posh B**tard


Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 12145

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tales games are usually good for curing my fix for RPGs. They have standard levelling, easy weapon upgrades with a familiar battle system. I guess I love the simplicity.
But the fact that they haven't released many on the 360 makes it very hard for me! Vesperia and Symphonia are really the only two I've fully played.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Green_Lantern
Spacecataz


Joined: 06 Nov 2008
Posts: 5154

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, just get a PS3 already.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MattAY
Posh B**tard


Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 12145

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, we have been over this a couple of times huh GL Wink

Buy me one?
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
danielrbischoff



Joined: 13 Nov 2009
Posts: 8871

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone in this thread wrote:

_________________
http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/watch-dogs
http://www.gamerevolution.com/manifesto/gr-strips-14-by-a-nose-25991
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Longo_2_guns
Ruler of the Queen's Navy


Joined: 29 Jun 2003
Posts: 15739

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More like:
Everyone in this thread wrote:

_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address MSN Messenger
Lien
Die Hard Commie Bastard


Joined: 01 Feb 2008
Posts: 3615

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...White people...
_________________
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8223820288/h62506323/
cyberjim2000 wrote:
I've avoided assassinations, lead a grand military campaign, and ruled a mighty kingdom. Then I was killed by chocolate.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HunterFire11



Joined: 20 Jul 2013
Posts: 52

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

White people everywhere...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
cyberjim2000
Forum Bum


Joined: 28 Feb 2010
Posts: 1780

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Longo_2_guns wrote:
More like:
Everyone in this thread wrote:


More like:


I stopped caring after I posted. Much love, Jon, please post more. We all gotta get together and play Pathfinder or D&D 3.5 together sometime.


Last edited by cyberjim2000 on Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:53 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Longo_2_guns
Ruler of the Queen's Navy


Joined: 29 Jun 2003
Posts: 15739

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally play Pathfinder over 3.5.

Perception is better than spot and search and listen.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address MSN Messenger
Bretimus_v2
The Japazillian Dynasty


Joined: 30 Jan 2009
Posts: 9711

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

House rules yo...I mean...NERDS!!!!
_________________
Star-Lord wrote:
I look around and do you know what I see? Losers.


Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
HK-47
You are all meatbags


Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Posts: 3117

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: The Best Modern RPG Franchises Reply with quote

LinksOcarina wrote:


so id keep Witcher, Souls, and Rune Factory since they meet the criteria. Throw in new franchises such as Mass Effect, Borderlands, Legend of Grimrock, Etrain Odyssey, the Sacred Series, Valkyria Chronicles, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance, then you have a much more adequate list.


This makes it two people who have definitely played Etrian Odyssey on GR.
_________________
St HK, Boondock Saint
thetank score: 2660

Juggernaut, Hunter of the Gods.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LinksOcarina
The Anti-Fanboy


Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 11514

PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bretimus_v2 wrote:
I still don't get what you're upset about. You're tacking your definitions onto words and forcing your perspective and slicin up genres to fit your argument. Both W and J are RPGs. Fact. That Jon's list differs from yours is ok and you can be ok being ok with it. I promise the bright light of a new day and the hope and promise it brings will take away the gloomy clouds that helped put whatever rod is up your buttocks and remove it henceforth.


I guess I am upset that the list is simply not that good in my eyes. Although to be fair, most top lists are terrible anyway.

And how did I slice up genres? Other than W and JRPG being bullshit terms I welcome all kinds of Role-Playing games.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Game Revolution Forum Index -> General Gaming Topics All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum