House passes health care reform bill.

kapow · A Casual God Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Posts: 2180

there's still a long way to go, particularly if lieberman is serious about filibustering.

also republicans weren't around when the usa was created, but i know what you mean
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Lethean · Young Master Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 13655

LinksOcarina · The Anti-Fanboy Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 7821

I really hope that this bill being passed get's ratified like they are planning to do. Otherwise it will be all for naught Sad

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That said, even if I don't like some of the stuff in it, at least it's major progress, not to mention a better bill that honestly was expected by many people I think. I just hope the momentum holds up.
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KoalaRainbowPoop · Joined: 27 Feb 2009 Posts: 811

bout time usa's government started marching towards the new century. too bad that century was the 20th. but hey, better late than never.
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LawnGnome · Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 741

I don't think anything is going to get through the Senate with a public option, too many moderate Democrats worried about next year's elections. I think the "trigger" option might happen though, so we could be seeing real reform a few years down the road after the insurance companies don't change. That's the thing I hate about the Democrats, they have a clear mandate for reform but they always are too worried about the next election. Why can't they be more like the Republicans and just say "f*** it. We're in power, let's do what we want"?
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Rakon · Resident Mr. Awesome Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 2108

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't understand why Americans don't want free health care. I realize there's more to it than just that (i.e costs), but I can safely say that free health care to those who can't afford it and not letting insurance companies take advantage of everyone are good things.
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seakin_84 · Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 2

The thing that most people aren't getting is the fact that those of us who pay insurance i.e. through work, or private are going to end up paying more to cover the "free insurance" its no more than just bumping up medi(caid/care) its still a goverment owned entitiy that will remove a large portion of the private sector from it. Don't get me wrong insurance companies are the F-ing devil right now. Most people pay way to much of their pay checks to the insurance and another quater to taxes to cover the uninsured. There needs to be better mandated control of the large insurance companies and there should be some form of discounted (not free) insurance for lower income families. Unemployed people are still getting money part of that should be insurance if they want it other wise they can opt out just like the rest of them. If it goes to goverment controlled insurance alot of people are going to be dropping their insurance to go with a "free insurance plan" which means the taxes will continue to be raised on people who work and with 10% of the U.S. being unemployed that puts alot of stress on the ones who are still able to work not to mention it will cause more job loss in the private sector of the insurance agencies. Sorry for the long rant its just very odd to see so many people support such an odd bill that could end up hurting us more than helping.

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Eyebrowsbv31 · Aneurysm, brb Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1245

Are they letting that one through?
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NickKmet · I Eat Granola Bars Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 935

I thought that stuff like that constituted the majority of the bill. It was supposed to create that market exchange thing and allow companies to compete across state lines, while (in the democrats' perfect version) allowing people to buy a government plan if the market didn't provide what they wanted. The other big thing i can remember is banning rejection based on pre-existing conditions. There's some other stuff like that as far as i know. The amendment they added a few days ago just makes it impossible to use government money to a buy a plan that pays for abortions in any but the most extreme cases (ie rape and incest).
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Eyebrowsbv31 · Aneurysm, brb Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 1245

I'm not so sure about that.

But I am waiting to see how long until the DNC or Obama declares bipartisan support for it in the house.
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Jackel585 · Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 189

i am gonna wind up in prison with a s*** ton of fines because of the way this thing is written, thankfully it already pre-failed the Senate. This should have been a referrendum, not a congressional legislation only

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StalfrosCC · Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:43 am Post subject:

Yeah, that is Medicade. It has been around for years.