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Mobius_Sean



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:47 pm    Post subject: 32-Bit OS misadventure Reply with quote

So after building my rig with Win7 64, I had a few games that NEVER worked, notably Fallout 3, which sucked, because playing FO3 with mods was one of the things I had missed from when I could play on my dad's old rig back in the day.

Cut to last night: I fought for a year trying every fix I could find on getting it to run on a 64-bit OS and NONE have worked, so I took the nuclear option: created a partition and dual-booted an old copy of Vista 32-bit I had sitting around from a laptop that was quickly upgraded to Win7. Only problem was, I noticed my BIOS won't detect my USB Logitech G510, so I would have to keep my ratty old PS/2 keyboard plugged in indefinitely to select my OS. This would not do. Tried resetting CMOS, all sorts of fun things that had no effect, but I did manage to break my RAID 0 when my sleep deprived self selected "Restore factory settings-> save changes and exit BIOS". Thankfully, I had made a backup on an external drive. Finally broke down and tried BIOS update. Predictably, it broke my RAID, so I got to reinstall 1TB worth of backup. Again. However, I now have USB keyboard support in BIOS for the first time ever, and a dual boot of Win 7 x64 and Vista 32. Since they both have near identical partition management, I can avoid the headache of dealing with XP RAID controllers.

Ran my test run through Fallout 3's intro sequence, and where it used to crash exactly as I crossed the vault threshold, I'm happily skipping about the wasteland like I used to. Going to install World in Conflict and a few other 32-bit native troublemakers, and possibly experiment with Linux on another partition. If I remember, Bioshock was also not happy about running in an x64 environment either.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shit, I'm sorry I can't help but I am winding up the PC Bros alarm right now.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh no need. I got it all sorted, just figured everyone likes a good troubleshooting story. I just now had to work with the registry to get Windows Update to work on Vista again. After that everything looks to be in order.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truly inspirational. I wish I had a copy of Windows XP to install on my computer.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once i rebuild my desktop with a new GPU and SSD + HDDs, i'm gonna dualboot XP 32bit and Win7 64bit for some of those older games that just refuse to work properly. Happily, my UEFI/BIOS supports USB devices so i should have a lot better time of things than you.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New SSD is ordered. Going to reformat with Win8.1

8.1 has better game performance.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/24/battlefield_4_windows_7_vs_81_performance_review/5
Will be interesting to see how well mantel API will do.



Fallout games are buggy as hell. Here is a thread "Getting Fallout 3 to run on Windows 7 - 64 Bit"
http://steamcommunity.com/app/22370/discussions/0/828936718672479298/

Here is a article for bioshock,
http://steamcommunity.com/app/7670/discussions/0/864974880614512381/
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BIOS update fixed the keyboard issue, but I can't recommend backing up before trying that enough. Would have lost a lot of game saves and mod configurations if I hadn't. ESPECIALLY if running RAID 0.

AndI had tried all those fixes for FO3 and could never get any reliable stability. Even when it "ran" it felt creaky as hell and I'd spend the whole session holding my breath for the inevitable freeze. Running in its native x32 environment it's much more stable.
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