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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can save $456 (PCCG) by building it yourself, even if you pay for windows.

And that's assuming 1:1 parts, cheaper RAM, cheaper fans, no DVD drive, no LED strip and an i5-7400 all drop the price to give you a $573 saving.

In fact, for $83 less ($1901) you can get that same basic setup, except with an 8c/16t Ryzen and a GTX 1070.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryzen was tested in VR versus 7700k. Looks like I made the correct decision.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/03/02/amd_ryzen_1700x_cpu_review/5
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't trust reviews for now, there seems to be huge variances all over the place from firmware issues, especially with asus boards which are somehow approaching 20% down off gigabytes, what the fuck. How this shit wasn't sorted out already when they've been showing boards off for months now is beyond me. There's also hopefully going to be a windows update soon that fixes the CCX/latency problem, check out some fresh reviews in a few weeks.

Also the only ones out right now are the 8 core, the 6 cores have the same power limits so should clock higher, not to mention being cheaper. They'll be the ones to get for gaming, the 8 cores are workstation.

A delidded 7700K running 5ghz+ is obviously going to be the best for gaming, but hopefully we'll start seeing more and more games start being multithreaded correctly and we can start using a modern CPUs real strength, would be especially helpful in VR where you could use CPU power to pick up the slack
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys.

So I'm still looking into upgrading my computer, but of course, unavoidable bills kick us in the arse on a regular basis whilst I'm trying to save money. I've been looking into parts and I wanna get your input.

Graphics card - https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37840/asus-geforce-gtx-1060-dc2-strix-gaming-oc-6gb

RAM - https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37078/corsair-dominator-platinum-cmd16gx4m2b3000c15-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4

SSD - https://www.pccasegear.com/products/28749/samsung-850-pro-256gb-ssd (would try 512GB but it's sold out)

What about a processor and/or motherboard? My original specs are somewhere in this thread. Would I need a new power supply and/or cooling?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the RX 5xx just launched, you can pick up an 8gb RX 480 for $349 which is a better deal than that 1060, otherwise wait to see if they price drop as well with the updated 1060s coming out soon. This is all assuming you need it, if you're only going to be gaming at 1080p with 60FPS, just get an RX 470.

The biggest problem is that these days, especially with ryzen and kaby lake, we're now at the point where sandy bridge (your CPU) is getting a bit old and becoming a bottleneck - plus your motherboard is lacking a whole bunch of modern features. You're looking at DDR4 RAM, Z68 is only DDR3.

Personally if i were you, i'd be getting an entirely new build. Sell your old stuff to help pay for it, Z68 motherboards have surprising used value.

If i was doing a fresh build with a mix of content creation and gaming right now, this is what it'd look like from PCCG:



That nets you a 6 core, 12 thread CPU with 16gb of fast DDR4, a MUCH faster SSD (about 6x), a motherboard with USB 3.1 and Type-C as well as tons of expansion for things like wi-fi or sound cards, a new good quality power supply with 80+ silver efficiency and a graphics card powerful enough to max out pretty much anything at 1080p60.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, just save money and get a regular SSD rather than the M.2. I'd love one, but they're still too expensive.

You could probably get away with the stock CPU cooler too to save more money.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloody hell. Buying the parts yourself and then putting it all together is such a cheaper option. Good pre-built PCs for 1080p 60 FPS gaming are generally like... two grand, minimum.

So you guys reckon I should just get an entirely brand new build, rather than upgrade my old one? I suppose I could either try and sell the parts in my old one, or perhaps just give this PC to my partner for her to use.

I've never built a PC before. That will be a very interesting endeavor.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green_Lantern wrote:
Meh, just save money and get a regular SSD rather than the M.2. I'd love one, but they're still too expensive.

You could probably get away with the stock CPU cooler too to save more money.

Difference between a SATA3 and M.2 SSD is like $20, and considering just how much insanely faster it is that's definitely worthwhile. Plus the Evos in 250gb are out of stock, meaning we're comparing an 850 Pro with the M.2 and it's like $2

That is the stock cooler, ryzen comes with a delicious stock cooler that's equal to about a $30 aftermarket one, has an awesome light ring and everything

Master_Craig wrote:
Bloody hell. Buying the parts yourself and then putting it all together is such a cheaper option. Good pre-built PCs for 1080p 60 FPS gaming are generally like... two grand, minimum.

A good chunk of that is down to ryzen launching, if you wanted to do a similar build with intel while losing 2 cores and 4 threads, you're looking at another $150 or more if you want to overclock. Plus it's always been a lot cheaper to build it yourself, only thing to be aware about is that PCCG have insane postage charges and paypal fees so you'll be looking at probably another $100 by the time everything's said and done.

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So you guys reckon I should just get an entirely brand new build, rather than upgrade my old one? I suppose I could either try and sell the parts in my old one, or perhaps just give this PC to my partner for her to use.

When you first posted this thread it was 2015 man, and back then sandy bridge was still pretty much all you needed. Problem is that we're now approaching mid 2017 and everything has advanced quite a bit, it's now at the point where upgrading is a good idea especially considering you can't overclock the normal i7-2600.

If you sell off your old build in parts you should be looking at $300, it's up to you if you'd rather do that or maybe throw an R9 280 in it for $50-100 and use it as a second PC.

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I've never built a PC before. That will be a very interesting endeavor.

It's really easy to do, shouldn't take you more than 2 hours if it's your first time. Just watch a couple youtube videos, tech deals and linustechtips are generally pretty good
If you lived in NSW rather than hot-sticky-mess-land up north i'd offer to just build it for you
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also you can do it quite a bit cheaper if you shop around:
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/RvsLBP


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, if I lived near you, I'd certainly hit you up to help me out with building a PC, thanks madster. Smile

But since I'm in the burning lands of the North, I reckon going online to review videos (like you said) on how to build a PC would be the next best thing.

Can't be THAT hard, right? Razz

Thanks for recommending me the particular pieces of gear, I appreciate that. I know I've said this before, but I really do need to look into ordering some stuff. I think what I'll do, is keep my old PC and maybe just give it to my partner so she can use. I dunno what she'll do with it, maybe uni work, art stuff, some games?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easy. The only annoying part is making sure all the power and case cables are plugged into the mobo right.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking forward to trying, actually. Might need to try and sort out a DVD disc drive and an extra HDD, though.
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