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Updated Cleric Guide for Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
Welcome to my guide on Clerics for Neverwinter Nights 2. Clerics are one
of the most powerful classes and it is interesting that in MotB they
apparantly gained quite a bit of competition.
Two more divine classes, the Favored Soul, and Spirit Shaman have arrived.
The Favored Soul is a CHA-based cleric with a sorceror like spell system.
The class itself is not nearly as versatile as the cleric though.
In addition, two new divine prestege classes are here. Both of which are
far better than Warpriest, but lack versatility in a big way.
Clerics are one of the original hybrid classes. Although there are an
amazing amount of warrior/mage prestege classes in pen and paper(pnp) D&D,
clerics already handle this role quite nicely.
Unlike paladins/rangers and even bards, they have full spellcasting power
with 9 levels of spells but still retain adequate fighting capability.
With an extra 10 levels of leveling progression, it significantly opens up
the cleric class for greater multiclassing potential.
This guide covers some concepts of healing, as well as two distinctly
different builds for playing your cleric to its maximum potential.
Feel free to contact me with questions. It makes me feel important ;-)
My info is at the end of the guide.
Table Of Contents:
I. Role of Healing
II. Role of the Cleric
III. Spell DC and Caster Levels.
IV. Defensive Casting Analysis
V. The Caster Cleric
c) Domain Choices
f) Weapon Selection
h) Multiclassing Considerations
VI. The Warrior Cleric
c) Domain Choices
f) Weapon Selection
h) Multiclassing Considerations
VII. Clerical Prestege Classes.
VIII. Conclusion/Copyright/Contact Info.
I. Role of Healing
Nothing is particularly different in this section with regards to MOTB.
For those who have played other games, especially massive multiplayer
online games (mmo's), the role of healing in D&D/NWN2 may surprise you.
In fact, healing in combat is RARE and not very useful most of the time.
In MMOs, healing during combat is very necessary for parties for two reasons:
a) Max HPs are low, compared to monster damage. An unhealed warrior can
die within 10 seconds if he has all the mobile monsters(mobs) attention.
An unhealed warrior is pretty much guaranteed to die during the course
of an entire fight. In NWN2, this is not really the case. Party
members are generally unlikely to take enough damage to die during a
typical encounter. Healing is used more after combat to prepare for
the next fight.
b) Healing per unit time is much stronger than damage. In other words a
single healer can do enough healing to the party to negate most if not
all monster damage for a while. Basically the healer's mana-bar extends
the party's effective HPs. In Magic the card game, lifegain is twice
as powerful as damage. In World of Warcraft, a healer can crank out
three times the healing as a damage based character.
In NWN2, healing is just not effective enough.
At level 7 for example, a cleric can cast a 30 point Cure Critical
Wounds, but a Warrior can hit twice for 25, a rogue can sneak for 20,
and a mage can toss a 7d6 fireball that affects everyone.
A high level mass cure moderate wounds spell does NOT negate 2 or
3 chain lightings to say the least.
The upshot is that a cleric will NOT be a full time healer in combat.
Occasional heals may be needed, but there are actually very few that are
worth casting in combat.
II. Role of the Cleric
The cleric's usual percieved role is to buff the party and support the party
by offensive, defensive, and healing spells. As discussed, most of the
healing usually occurs at the end of combat, and even then is performed by
first aid kits moreso than spells where rest is limited.
As most MMO players can tell you, the best thing for a hybrid is to
specialize. Otherwise, you are so-so at everything. It is better to have
a specialty that you are good at, and also retain a decent ability to
perform the other roles as needed. There are several ways of doing
so. Like all characters, feats and attributes are the primary method.
Clerics gain a choice of two Domains that give them certain spells
and abilities, which provides a powerful additional method of
customization or specialization as we will soon see.
Note that it is very possible to play a middle-of-the-road cleric, and be
quite successful. This is more of a testament to the power of the cleric
than anything however.
Therefore, my guide covers two distinct styles of play... the Caster Cleric
and the Battle Cleric.
The battle cleric does not use hardly any offensive spells, and uses magic
to buff self and party and heal as needed. Such a cleric is basically a
second rate warrior. However, this is actually not the case, as the buff
power of a cleric is very impressive, and provides a large amount of defense
as well as offense. (various immunities, elemental damage reduction, AB,
In particular, there are 3 key spells (and 1 honorable mention) that
transform a cleric from 2nd rate warrior, to very mighty in melee.
These are (for lvl20):
-persistent divine favor (+3ab/+3dmg for 24 hours. It got NERFED. :-(
-extended Battletide/Haste(Haste effect = +1ab,ac, 1 bonus attack for up
to 4 minutes.)
-extended Divine Might (BAB jumps to 20 from 15... bonus attack and +5ab
bonus for 4 minutes max.)
-honorable mention to Stoneskin (10 damage reduction per hit, max of 150
HP reduced for up to 20 minutes)
Most warrior clerics will multiclass and thus stick to around 25 or less
casting levels (including practiced caster). Hence, spell durations
will increase a bit on average, but not much.
The caster cleric is wholly devoted to offensive magic.
They act as a wanna-be wizard. Although lacking some of the diversity
for offensive spells, the caster cleric is still quite powerful and has
several notable advantages. Chief among these are full plate + shield,
double the base HPs, healing ability, and much better melee capability,
as well as more spell slots than an equivalent wizard.
The emphasis is on a very high DC for all spells, a large number of bonus
spells, and metamagic feats to extend the offensive punch and versatility.
This cleric has limited healing spells and carries fewer buffs.
It turns out that the caster cleric has a very obvious choice for
spell focus that provides damage, stun, and insta-death spells.
Because these two paths diverge and are so different, I devote two separate
sections for discussing each playstyle.
Really quick note: When making a new character, you MUST click the CUSTOMIZE
button when it gives you the option of several character builds such as
"default cleric", "battle cleric", and so on.
This gives you control over your initial feats, skills, domains.
III. Spell DC Explained and Caster Levels.
A. Spell Difficulty Class
DC is a measure of how hard it is to avoid effects of spells, and other
Most offensive spells allow for a Saving Throw, which adds their
appropriate save category (Reflex,Fort,Will) to a 1d20 to meet
or exceed the DC of the spell.
You want your spell DC to be as high as possible, because if the foe makes
a successful saving throw, the spell is partially or completely negated.
Obviously, this is a bad thing if you are an offensive caster.
Most damage spells do 1/2 damage if a save is made. Evasion allows
certain spells to be reduced to 0 damage.
These spells are still adequate, even with a low DC. A warrior cleric
might make use of these as an "opener" to get in a bit of damage.
Effect spells are called Save Or Die, which is a misnomer. This includes
actual death spells, but also includes spells that do something really
bad, such as Hold Person, dominate monster, flesh to stone, etc.
These are WORTHLESS without a high DC, and should not be attempted.
Here is how DC is determined:
The DC starts at 10,
and adds +1 for each level of the spell (NOT including metamagic), then
adds your WIS modifier, and finally adds any spell focus.
So, a level 20 aasimir caster cleric as a 24WIS, 32 with a +8 item. She
casts an Empowered Chain Lighting.
DC is 10 base +6 for chain lightning +1 focus +1 greater focus + 11WIS
+1 prodigy for a total of 30
Note that the chain was an 8th lvl slot but metamagic was ignored. The
spell focus Evocation worked since CL is that category. Greater focus
stacks with normal spell focus, and Spellcasting Prodigy works as an
effective +2WIS that fully stacks. Or think of it as a universal spell
It becomes obvious that an offensive caster wants as high of a DC as
possible. It is the difference between a monster falling over dead,
and making a save and laughing at you.
Therefore an offensive caster should take the appropriate spell focus
feats, take Prodigy for sure, and crank up the WISDOM as much as
possible. This includes getting the best +WIS item you can find,
even if it costs you your natural AC amulet for example.
For EPIC levels, the spell DC is further modified in FOUR ways:
1) At caster level 23,26,29, a +1DC for all spells is gained.
This does NOT mean 23 CLERIC levels, but 23 caster levels which is
2) Every +2WIS adds another +1DC to all spells, AND adds bonus spell
slots. WIS can come from a free point at 24,28 OR from the
Great Wisdom feat, which can be taken up to 10 times!
3) Better WIS items. A +10 or 12 WIS item would obviously be better
than the +8 which was the cap in NWN2's original campaign. This
would serve to pump DC even further.
4) Epic Spell Focus - This is a VERY high priority feat that replaces
the +2bonus from focus,greaterfocus with a huge +6 bonus! That is
a +4 jump and really helps.
So in theory a cleric from 20 to 30 can pick up quite a bit of DC...
+4 epic focus, +2 (+12wis item), +1 (+2WIS at 24,28), and +3
(+6 WIS from Great Wisdom 6 feats), +3 (epic caster lvl bonus)
Total DC gain: +13!
That is more than sufficient to overcome the increased Saves of the
B. Caster Level
The effectiveness of your spells depends on your Caster Level.
This includes damage, duration, and ALSO ability to penetrate
Spell Resistance, and avoid getting Dispelled.
When you take a level in cleric, you gain 1 caster level in cleric also.
Normally, it is a 1 to 1 correspondance.
When you multiclass, you do not usually keep getting caster levels.
A 16cleric/4fighter has a 16 caster level. However, there is a feat
called Practiced Caster, that adds +4 to your caster level. It ONLY
works if you have enough total character levels.
i.e. the 16cleric/4fighter with practiced caster, will still ONLY get
level 8 spells (as a 16 cleric). BUT his spells are cast as if he
is level 20! A 16cleric/2fighter would have 18 caster level, since
it cannot exceed total levels.
Some prestege classes add partial clerical progression. A warpriest
gives a clerical full caster level every TWO levels.
So a 12cleric,8warpriest is really a 16cleric for ALL spellcasting
purposes. He casts 8th lvl spells AND casts as a 16 cleric.
Therefore, taking Practiced Caster would make him a 16cleric for
spell selection purposes, but a 20 cleric for spell effect, duration,
It becomes confusing as people refer to Caster Level as two DIFFERENT
a) How many levels worth of caster for SPELL PROGRESSION purposes.
b) How many levels worth for damage and effect purposes.
So, warrior clerics want a high caster level to have longer lasting
spells (ext battletide = 40 rounds instead of 32 for example), and
be harder to dispel (dispel check = 1d20 +15 to exceed Caster Lvl),
and get better effects (+5 magical vestment vs +4)
Caster clerics want to penetrate spell resistance, AND do more damage,
such as a 20d6 chain lighting vs a 16d6 one.
IV. Defensive Casting
Ok, I wanted to toss in this interesting sidenote that is important to all
clerics. One new choice is whether to use Defensive Casting mode or not.
The short version is: Leave defensive casting on at high level,
otherwise keep it off unless surrounded by several opponents.
Defensive Casting lets you avoid any attacks of opportunity when casting
a spell. However, it forces a concentration roll of 15 plus the spell level.
Casting without it in melee gives all baddies a free attack of
opportunity against you. For each one that hits, you will take damage
and force a concentration roll that is likely to be pretty high.
(The DC increases as more damage is taken)
The best way to do it is toggle it on and off as needed.
The trick is... whether it is needed or not.
And also, when is it correct to use.
I will try to answer this with the following chart. For each level below,
it gives the percent failure chance for casting the highest spell level.
I make several assumptions:
- no attribute mod (Constitution), positive or negative.
- no concentrate focus feats or anything.
- Uses maximum allowable concentration skill (i.e. character level +3)
- Assume no multiclassing, so that casting level = character level.
- Always casting the highest possible spell level.
- Gains 1 new spell level every 2 levels (sorcs,bards, and multiclassing
will lag behind a bit from this. So this is worst-case scenario.
In that case, subtract 5% per non-cleric level class)
The formula remember is 1d20 + concentrate skill has to equal or exceed
15 + spell level.
NOTE: A 1 is NOT automatic failure, so 23 concentrate = automatic
17: 15% (max of 9th lvl spells = 24DC)
This chart has several modifiers:
1) Every 2 CON past 10 including buffs and items gives a -5% chance to
the whole chart.
2) Every point of Concentration from items (i.e. gloves of concentration)
3) The Skill Focus: Concentrate feat gives -15% as it is worth 3 skillpoints.
4) The Combat Casting feat gives -20%.
A cleric with 14 CON and a bear's endurance has -20% to the chart.
At level 14, they can use defensive casting with no chance of failure,
so they just leave it on all the time. The same cleric with Combat Casting
feat can start leaving it on at level 10.
If you are under level 10, you will probably never want to use Defensive
Casting. Once you hit a high enough level such that the chance drops to
0% , you will always use defensive casting and leave it on.
Otherwise, if you are surrounded by 3 or more baddies, you will probably
use defensive casting if the failure chance is under 20%. Else, you will
likely take your chances and hope the attacks of opportunity miss.
In MOTB campaign, you will always want to leave defensive casting on.
Since you start at level 18, you have already hit the 0% failure mark.
V. The Caster Cleric
Welcome to the Caster Cleric section. Playstyle is pretty similar to a
wizard and you have similarly powerful spells.
You have wizard-like offensive spells, but d8 HPs and full plate with
shield! It is a great combo.
You will primarily use Evocation spells, since those are the most
common... and have several different effects (stun,death,dmg)
You want to maximize Wisdom at all costs, since it is the biggest
thing that grants high DCs for spells.
At lower levels, an Owls Wisdom gives you a +4
pump which = +2DC to all your spells. Use it, but careful with
rearranging spells as it gives bonus slots temporarily that you cant
keep. At higher levels, you should be able to find an item that adds
One major downside is that the typical +WIS item is an amulet.
This happens to be the ONLY slot available for Natural AC pumps,
which is bad. You wind up with lower AC and getting beat up, or good AC
with a weaker DC and fewer spell slots.
The epic items in MOTB do address this somewhat.
Hence, any non-amulet WIS source is very important,
unless you have access to SpiderSkin/Barkskin somehow. (rod, clickey
item, druid/mage buddy, stack of wizard scrolls with UMD, etc)
Your second weakness is that you have no damage mitigation spell.
Wizards rely heavily on ghostly visage, stoneskin, premonition, etc
to cushion blows and reduce concentration checks. You do not really
have any such luxury and rely on your higher AC to avoid being hit, or
your higher HP to soak up more damage.
Look for things such as Rod of the Ghost and other items that allow such
spells, so you can reap the benefits of wizardly mitigation AND
clerical AC/HP advantages.
In MOTB, you will want to find items that grant displacement, improved
invis, ethereal visage, stoneskin, and so forth.
These are very strong to greatly increase your effective HPs.
Playstyle wise, once mobs bunch up you can use a Hammer to disable several
of them then start chain casting damage spells to take out most of them.
You can Divine Favor and melee out nearly dead stragglers, unlike wizards
which are stuck with horrible fighting capabilities.
Another approach is to use BlindSight buff and then cast Darkness on
yourself. This gives you 50% concealment while the melees attack you,
while you spam damage spells.
A late game strategy is to Deathward yourself (depending on if needed due
to pvp settings) and use your DC36-ish Implosion on yourself to slaughter
This of course assumes higher difficulty settings. Otherwise, you can
just spam out death and destruction like crazy.
In MotB, you will be fighting higher level monsters. These have more HPs,
but you don't gain any extra spell slots. Obviously this is a bad deal.
Hence, you will likely wind up melee-ing more often. Other alternatives
are to use more Death Magic, disablers(hammer), and persistent damage,
such as Storm of Vengence(dmg&stun), and especially Blade Barrier.
Note: you cant really cast bad spells targeting yourself via the portrait,
but CAN zoom way in and target right at your feet.
It's kind of a pain though due to the autotargeting "feature".. especially
if the monsters are large.
Example Diagram: O is you, X are enemies.
Casting an implosion on an enemy means the small AoE will only affect maybe
3 of them. Centering it at your feet though has a good chance of affecting
most or all surrounding baddies. Try it!
Now, lets look at how to make an effective Caster Cleric.
You have no XP penalty concerns, so any race is doable. Here are the
three best choices in my opinion.
Human - The extra feat is really nice for getting the essentials faster.
Allows an extra choice at 18 which is probably gonna be toughness.
The extra skill allows you to skimp 2 points on INT to place elsewhere.
Humans are best for playing the original campaign since ECL races stink.
Aasimir - The main advantage is the +2WIS, which allows for +1 to all
spell DCs... and a few bonus spellslots. There are several drawbacks
compared to humans, but for the absolute most casting power, this is
your race. I would probably recommend Aasimir in most cases,
except maybe for the NWN2 Campaign due to ECL. For the MotB campaign
since it is already high level, the ECL is not nearly as painful.
Deep Gnome - If you really want the best character at high levels,
this is the way to go. The +2WIS is great as described above.
In addition, +5 extra AC is amazingly good! Free Spell Resistance
frees up a buff cast and spellslot. Don't be fooled by the Illusion
spell affinity though... evocation is still best.
Racial invisibility is occasionally handy, since you don't get access
to that normally until much higher(ethereal).
Best choice on a persistent world IF you are twinked and have assistance.
Note that the -4CHA means NO undead turning without a +2 CHA item!
Unfortunately, all the new races stink! All the Genesai are worthless, as
is half drow.
For a Human, I would go with the following:
STR: 14 (carrying and fighting)
DEX: 13 (Max of +1AC in fullplate. Mithril Fullplate allows +3 FYI)
CON: 14 (Good HP bonus)
INT: 10 (3 skill points per level)
WIS: 17 (+5 from levelups = 22)
CHA: 8 (not needed)
Aasimir will add +2WIS, +2CHA, but you will have to bump INT to 12 for
the same skillpoints. Change DEX to 12, and STR to 13.
DeepGnome gets +2WIS, +2INT. STR drops to 12. CHA gets cratered to 4.
If you are starting at high level, it is probably a good idea to take
a 9 DEX, and crank up INT to 14 for more skills. You can easily find
a +4dex item to make up the difference, AC-wise.
c) Domain Choices
I recommend Air and Water as they provide strong offensive spells which
are badly needed. You COULD skimp on one or both of these, but I highly
recommend against it.
Unfortunately, MotB did not provide ANY useful domains for caster clerics!
-- uncanny dodge - Useless. Might avoid some sneak attacks from unseen
rogues at best. (untested)
-- call lighting - Very important as its your 1st AoE damage spell.
Extremely powerful when leveling, as it is evocation
and doesn't hit party members.
-- chain lighting - So so. The 1/2 dmg to secondary targets makes it weak.
However, it doesnt hit party members and adds some
needed offensive diversity. Both of these are you only
decent access to Lightning damage.
-- Evasion - So-so. Cleric reflex saves are low, so it's not as good as
you might think.
-- Poison - useless.
-- IceStorm - Important, as it is your ONLY spell that allows NO save.
It cannot be evaded. Provides a solid fireball-like spell
that scales well with levels. It is also the only access to
Fire (possible replacement for Air)
-- Fire resistance 5 - Weak. Element buffs provide better protection.
-- Fireball - This is strictly stronger than Call Lighting if you are
playing on average difficulty or non pvp settings, as it
has a bigger AoE and is tossable. Otherwise, I strongly
prefer the party-friendly Call Lightning. Besides, I like
having access to lightning-based damage and 2 usable spells.
-- Wall of Fire - weak. Blade barrier is much better.
These are tempting, but you should avoid them:
Plant (tempting, but lacking offensive punch)
-- Wildland Stride - nice, but not that useful.
-- Entangle/VineMine - Not bad, but they are not evocation and too low
level to be really effective later on.
-- Barkskin - Key spell. Allows you to equip a Wisdom amulet and still
retain natural AC bonus. Depending on your module's items,
this could be quite important.
Earth (very strong, but no offense gained)
-- Toughness - Great free feat.
-- Stoneskin - Key spell as it adds a lot of free HPs, and also helps a LOT
in reducing concentration rolls to be easily made.
(-10 dmg per hit reduces the DC by a lot)
-- Energy Immunity at 5 - worthless.
Death (don't take!)
-- Avatar - This thing is a sick joke. At level 20, it has an AB of 3,
63HP, and 13AC! It doesn't even stack with summon spells
-- Phantasmal killer - Worthless. Allows TWO saves to avoid death.
-- Wierd - Worthless. Allows 2 saves to negate. Implosion is much better.
Animal (don't take. No offensive spells gained and pet isnt worth it.)
-- Animal Companion - Not bad and scales adequately. Plus it stacks
with summon spells. It doesn't really work as a
tank though and requires buffs to be any good at all,
thus eating spellslots. Clerics do not have the
appropriate buffs for it anyways. If you want a pet,
play a druid.
-- Cats Grace - worthless.
-- True seeing at lvl4 instead of 5 - worthless.
Travel (don't take)
-- 10% move - Supposedly doesn't work in heavy armor. Feat description
does not say that though. Might be decent.
-- Freedom of Move at 3 - worthless.
-- haste - its just not that good for a caster, unlike in NWN1.
Unlike a mage, you cant extend it (lack of feats) and definitely
cannot Persist it. It's not worth 5th level slots.
Time (don't take)
-- Improved Initiative - Pretty nice actually.
-- haste at level 3! Persistable, but once again haste is not THAT useful
for a caster. You are unlikely to take Persist spell anyways.
-- Premonition - Super Stoneskin. Very nice, but epic monsters are more
likely to bypass it.
Cold (don't take)
-- Cold resist 5 - Woopie.
-- Creeping Cold 2 - Id rather have sonic burst with its AoE Stun.
-- Hypothermia 3 - Not a bad alternative to Searing Light.
-- Polar Ray 9 - Cleric 9th lvl spells are WAY too good, to ever
justify this piece of crud. 25d6 with a ranged touch atk? No ty.
The following feats are vital to a caster cleric. Do not skimp on these,
as it is just not worth it.
Prodigal Caster - Essential feat. MUST BE TAKEN AT 1st LEVEL!
It is basically +2 Wisdom, and acts as a Spell Focus: everything
plus allows bonus spells.
Maximize Spell - These are extremely important. Since you have a rather
small selection of good offensive spells, these two allow you much
more latitude in spell selection.
Greater Spell Penetration - Important since you rely so heavily
on spells for offense. An equal level monk has a 45% chance of
resisting your spells. These two feats reduce that to 25% which is
much more manageable.
(sidenote: Caster level +1d20 roll +2(penetration) +2(greater pen)
has to meet or exceed target's Spell Resistance, or spell is resisted)
Spell Focus: Evocation/
Greater Spell Focus - These are important to maximize your spell DC.
Both of these together decrease their chance of saving by 10%.
Evocation is the obvious choice as most good spells are evocation
as will be seen. Trust me on this...go evocation.
The order does not matter too much, although my recommendations are below:
1: prodigal caster (must take at level 1)
3: focus: evocation (grab early on for DC bonuses)
6: greater focus: evocation
9: empower (nothing worth empowering until level 9)
15: penetration (very few low level foes have significant spell resist)
18: greater penetration.
If human/halfling, you can choose 1 additional feat for your 18th level.
I generally dont recommend taking any of these earlier than 18.
There are several nice choices:
-toughness - extra HP is good.
-tower shields proficiency - more AC. A very dubious choice though.
-extend spell - it is just not needed, as you have no short-term buffs
you really need to extend.
-Weapon focus: morningstar or whatever - So-so.
-Lightning Reflexes - +3 reflex saves. Combos with evasion.
I'd probably stick with toughness.
-Skill Focus: Concentration - Very nice, although it isn't needed so
much at higher levels since your Defensive Cast always
Don't even consider the following:
-- expertise - Noo. At higher levels, Defensive casting is usually better.
Too high prereqs. anyways.
-- dodge - Not worth a valuable feat. Needs 13 dex.
-- Practiced Caster - Worthless since you will not multiclass anyways.
If you plan to multiclass, this is essential though.
-- Other combat-related feats - Not your forte. Don't bother.
-- Divine Shield - CHA-based, and requires too high prereqs.
NOT worth the sacrifices needed.
-- Combat Casting - crappy. Use SkillFocus instead since it works for
ALL Concentrate rolls.
These are the mandatory feats:
- Epic Spell Focus is amazingly good. Adds +6 to your evocation spells!
It replaces the previous 2 focus feats. This is first priority.
- Great Wisdom - Pumps up your Spell DC and adds bonus spells. You will
take this multiple times.
- Epic Spell: Vampiric Feast - It is a 1 shot per rest deal, but it is
incredible! It is an Implosion with 4 times the area (20 ft vs 10),
centered at your feet. Only affects baddies. Anything that saves
STILL loses 1/2 their life. Anything that dies creates some shadow
fodder. Plus it heals you, cuz just killing everything and summoning
friendly shadows is not NEARLY good enough.. ;-)
These are feats to consider:
- Armor Skin - +2 AC that fully stacks with everything is quite good.
You probably don't have room for it though.
- Damage Reduction - 6 points of DR. Unsure how it stacks with Damage
resistance though. Much better than Armor Skin or Epic Toughness.
- Epic Spell: Darnnation - Hits one foe only, requires a touch attack,
no range on the spell, a save negates it. Woopie.
- Epic Spell: Husk - Another touch-range spell. Super confusion.
Having to wait 20 rounds for it to die while it beats on you is
annoying to say the least...
- Epic Spell: Epic Gate - It is a really good summon spell. Still, I
dont see it being worth a feat.
You have rather few skillpoints, so are somewhat limited here.
The best skills for you to take are the following:
You basically get to pick 3.
Remember, you can sacrifice some STR for more skillpoints if necessary. It
will affect your melee and carrying, but may be worth it.
Also, you could reduce DEX for INT also, but this affects your AC. ONLY
do this option if you expect to find a DEX item very soon, or are starting
at high level (such as with the MOTB campaign)
Remember, that if you want EPIC SPELLS, you MUST max out Spellcraft!
** Concentrate - Essential since you are a caster. MUST PICK THIS.
-- Tumble - Even at 1/2 value, it is useful for the +1AC and small chance
of avoiding attacks of opportunity, even in plate/shield.
Pushing it past 10 ranks is not as necessary, since I wouldn't
expect you to be moving in combat that much.
** Spellcraft - The saving throw bonus is nice. Good combo with Evasion
vs fireballs and other spells. MANDATORY for epic spells.
-- Healing - Very useful, as a good heal roll can cure poison/disease too.
Allows you to save spell slots.
It does not really scale very well at higher levels though.
At level 30, it takes a LOT of bandaids to make a difference.
-- Diplomacy - If needed for a particular module/campaign.
-- Use Magic Device - Even 5 ranks (adjusted for CHA) allows use of scrolls
and other minor items. Several wizard scrolls can be very
beneficial (spiderskin, shadowshield, IronSkin, premonition)
I do not recommend above 5 adjusted points though.
NOTE: If playing at higher difficulty, using a scroll requires
a UMD check! It is generally too difficult to reliably use
scrolls until much higher level.
f) Weapon Selection
As a caster cleric, your weapon selection does not matter that much. You
will swing a lot more than a wizardly type, but spells are your main
Your best bet is to take a morning star. It is the highest damage weapon
available to you, and is bludgeoning which is unusual. Take whatever
best weapon you can find though.
Whatever you do, DO NOT use a 2handed weapon ever, as losing Shield AC as
a caster would be incredibly stupid.
Ditto with dualwielding which should be extremely obvious.
The following is a list of offensive spells by slot that I would expect
to see. One note: It is better for you to diversify your spells on a
level-basis. In other words, it works better to have level 4 hammer,
lvl5 icestorm, lvl6 chain lightning, etc.
As opposed to having your level 6 slots be: 1 maximized call lightning,
1 empowered hammer, 1 chain lighting, 1 blade barrier, and so forth.
This better allows you to fit all your offensive spells on one slot.
You want your offensive stuff used during battle on your 1st bar...
The 2nd bar contains buffs and other out of combat stuff, like Healing kits,
etc, which makes up your buff-bar.
Remember, all Evocation spells will get your spell focus bonuses of +2DC
early on. Note how the cleric evocation spells are not just damage,
but also disabler spells and even an awesome instant-death spell!
Note: AoE refers to Area of Effect.
Unfortunately, MotB did not give us much to work with. Clerics picked up a
few buff spells, but little offense. In fact, Hypothermia is our 1 whole
Protection Alignment - Immunity to mindspells. Very important buff.
Divine Favor - Load up with these for when melee is needed. It is very
helpful, and you have plenty of level 1 slots anyways.
Bears Endurance - HP are nice, but it also adds +2 to your concentrate skill.
This can be very important at mid levels to ensure defensive casting
causes no failures. Useful until you find a +4 or better CON item.
Sonic Burst - This is basically an Evocation version of Hold Monster
(2 round stun) with a small AoE. It is a fortitude save, and is
potentially useful for stunning a small group of casters when you
want to conserve more powerful spells. The tiny damage is irrelevant
and not the point of the spell.
Darkness - Its pretty handy. Cast it, run into the cloud and you can spam
damage spells while all mobs have 50% chance of missing you due to
Glpyh of Warding - Special Note. Very buggy spell. It doesnt seem to
respect empower/maximize as damage doesnt improve. However, it does
DIVINE damage instead of sonic and allows NO SAVE or spell resistance.
If you have a set encounter, this can be cheezy and effective. I once
dropped about 25 such wards in 1 spot. Then, summoned a red dragon
(via trainer) and lured him onto the glyphs. Got a screenshot of said
dragon dying immediately upon touching it. Combat log was full of about
22 5d8 divine damages with no mention of saves, spell resistance,
nothin. Nor were there ANY particularly high numbers that would indicate
empower or maximize worked. (no 40 dmg hits at all)
Call Lightning - Air domain. This is your first real AoE damage spell and
is quite solid. It is Evocation for higher DC, and only hits baddies.
Unfortunately, it cannot be tossed anymore and must center on you.
Fireball - Fire domain. If you dont have call lightning, hope you have this.
Watch the collateral damage depending on PvP settings. Evocation.
Searing Light - It is basically an empowered magic missile. (5d8 = 22.5 ave
vs 1d4+1 times 5 times 1.5 = 26ish) Does divine damage which is hard
to resist, with no save. Double damage vs undead. It is nice, but I
would stick with Call Lightnings unless many zap-resistant mobs are
expected in an area.
*Hammer of the Gods - Widely regarded as a crappy fireball, it is a key spell
that is vastly underrated. It is basically a huge AoE hold monster that
only affects baddies and stuns for 1d6 rounds. It is a will save and
strong vs most melee mobs and cannot be Evaded. It is Evocation and also
does moderate divine damage as a bonus. It is an excellent opening spell
to control crowds and disable foes. As a bonus, any rogues in your party
will love you, since they get free sneak attacks on the stunned enemies.
Divine Power - Might be worthwhile to carry 1 of these at higher levels in
case you really need strong melee ability (vs golem or something).
This plus Divine Favor makes you a reasonable fighter.
Spell Resistance - As a pure cleric this is an extremely strong buff.
Grants 55% chance of resisting a spell from equal level caster.
(empowered Call Lighting) - Very useful, especially at mid-levels.
**Ice Storm - No Saving throw allowed, and thus un-evadeable. Scales
reasonably well with level doing 5d6 initially plus 1d6 cold for every
3 caster levels. (15d6 max at 30) Note that it is really useful for
epic levels since it continues to scale while most spells cap out at
level 20. This is one of your best AoE pure damage spells.
It is in fact, Evocation, although with no save it doesn't
Stone Body - Noteworthy buff as it gives permanent stoneskin which you
dont have access to. The 50% speed is irritating, but not a problem
in combat. A +4DEX item can negate the dex penalty and thus AC penalty.
The immunity to crits is very strong for avoiding rogue sneak attacks,
weaponmasters, and monk stunning fist. The 50% arcane failure does NOT
apply to clerics, unlike wizards that cast this.
(maximized call lightning) - Solid 60 damage to all mobs.
(empowered Hammer - Note: Damage increases, but the 1d6 stun is NOT
empowered unfortunately. Used when in parties, and thus when the Stun
is more useful than pure damage. Ave dmg = 5d8*1.5 = 34ish.
Chain Lightning - (air) Evocation spell that does great initial damage
(20d6 cap is good for lvl6 spell), but only 1/2 damage to secondary
targets. Still, it is party friendly and very easy to target, since
it automatically chains to other foes. I rarely use it though, since
the secondary damage is so weak.
Blade Barrier - Situational. Tossed on a foe, it will always hit and do
damage. It is amazingly good in self-mode vs most melee mobs. HOWEVER,
larger mobs can stand outside the barrier and hit you without taking
damage! Plus, you are immobilized for the duration. There are several
clever ways of using the wall version though, including having a rogue
run back n forth with imp evasion reducing the damage while mobs take
heavy damage. Works really well with medium PvP settings when you can't
damage yourself with your own spells. In that case, running around
in circles and leading mobs back and forth it is very effective when solo,
not to mention saving a lot of spell slots.
Poor vs rogue/monk types since it is a reflex save.
Death to Undeath - solid spell vs undead. Much better than sunbeam.
(maxed hammer) - Increases damage to 40 divine. The stun is still quite
strong though if you need lots of stun more than pure damage.
(empowered icestorm) - solid AoE damage choice.
Word of Faith - Basically blinds all foes without a save. Good in parties,
but solo you can just cast darkness on yourself and have the same effect.
Destruction - This is a solid death spell. Note the fortitude save, so
more useful on caster types. 10d6 divine even if they make the save.
Plus, it has some range unlike previous death spells. I prefer AoE type
spells myself, but this is definitely a solid spell.
Greater Restoration - Dont forget at least 1 of these, as it is the best
healing spell in the entire game. Restores ALL HP with no cap.
(Maxed icestorm) - 66 damage at lvl18, no save. 90 at lvl30.
(empowered bladebarrier) - Approx 75 damage.
(empowered chain lightning) - 105 average dmg at lvl20 to primary.
(maxed chain lightning) - good, but eclipsed by the other awesome level 9
spells. Does 120 damage to primary.
** Storm of Vengence - Simply Awesome. Giant AoE, targets baddies only.
3d6 acid per round with no save. Plus, all baddies eat reflex save or
get Stunned for TWO rounds (not 1 as per description) and eat 3d6
more of electric damage. This happens for 10 rounds and is insanely
good for disabling mobs and softening them up. Storm turns hard fights
into easy ones. And get this... it STACKS! Yep, I fought 10 insanely
tough barbarian kings in a trainer mod and stacked 5 storms. The
Barbarians had no chance, having to roll against FIVE seperate DC33 saves
or be stunned, plus eating up to 30d6 per round.
* Implosion - The ultimate Death Spell. Has a small AoE and short range,
but kills anything failing a fort save. Note this is an Evocation spell
which is helpful though a bit surprising. Also, for some unknown reason
it seems to get a +3DC. Hence, theoretical max for an aasimir cleric
with +12WIS item is DC38!! (10 +9th lvl +2evocation +3unknown +1prodigal
caster +7 (24wisdom) +6(+12WIS item)
-- Energy Drain - Apparantly it finally got fixed and has No Save. This is
the premiere spell for beating up "Boss" monsters. 2d4 levels lost means
a big hit to caster level and Attack Bonus for sure.
Spells to avoid:
Summons - Most summons are of dubious utility. Dont use any of them,
even the long lasting planar ally (except maybe at level 11 when you
first get it)
Hypothermia - Our ONE whole offensive spell from MotB. Thanks lots guys.
It is so-so, but lousy compared to Hammer. 10d6 beats 5d8, and fatigued
equals a short daze. But hammer is AoE with Divine damage. Winner: Hammer.
Fire Storm - Weak damage for a level 8 spell. Maxed icestorm is always
better. Firestorm must be centered on you, and is truly horrid if the PvP
settings are such that you can damage your party.
Earthquake - Its a strictly inferior version of firestorm, which is itself
quite bad. It's truly terrible.
Inflict Wounds series - These are all awful, and don't seem to work very well.
Your normal spells work much better anyways and your touch attack is not
great anyways. The AoE on the Mass Inflict ones is very small.
Harm - Horrible spell now. Capped at 150 damage. Allows a save, which they
are unlikely to make due to your good DC. However, you ALSO have to
make a touch attack which may be difficult. The spell has no range
either so you must walk right up to them to cast it.
Destruction is much better. This one got nerfed hard from NWN1.
Slay Living - Weak version of destruction. Requires touch attack at melee
range and allows a save. Awful.
Flame Strike - Not bad in theory, but empowered call lightning or icestorm
is much better. The AoE is very very small.
Poison - This one should be obvious. It is so horrible as to defy all
Sunbeam - Even vs undead it is pretty weak. 20d6 with a save isn't amazing.
Use Death to Undeath instead. Searing light is pretty decent vs 1 baddie
g) Multiclassing Considerations
You will NOT want to multiclass at all up until level 17, and possibly
at all. Although there are advantages to
doing so, you simply do not have the feats to waste on Practiced Caster.
Any advantages gained are offset by losing a feat, and also slowing down
Since there are 30 levels to play with, but most spells have no effect
past 20, it is possible to do some multiclassing to pick up a few
free feats or abilities. You can consider the following, but watch XP
penalties, and remember bonus feats at 23,26,29 cleric!
cleric29/fighter1 - Gain armorskin free and tower shield proficiency.
cleric26/fig4 - gain 2 more free epic fighter feats, such as damage resist.
cleric26/fig2/pally2 - With CHA items, get some free +saves.
cleric29/lok1 - free saves with big CHA item.
Cleric19/Monk1/SacredFist10 - Uber speed, good AC, etc. NO bonus feats!
NOT recommended. See Sacred Fist section for more.
VI. The Warrior Cleric
As a warrior cleric, you do not need offensive spells.
Hence, this gives you a lot of slots for buffs and heals. To take a
closer look at your Big Three buffs that make you equal or better than
a warrior type, read on:
-- Divine Favor - +1 AB/dmg for every 3 levels. At 1 thru 5, the +1 is
not worth it. At 6-12, extended divine favor is pretty useful for heavy
fighting. At 13+, you gain access to PERSISTENT spell. At this point,
favor becomes a permanent buff you apply after each rest. Its like
having a +8 weapon, when everyone else has a +5, and is powerful.
At EPIC levels, it is not nearly as impressive but still useful.
-- Divine Power - Raises your BAB to your character level. At 20 cleric,
this gives you +5AB and 1 extra attack. It is very helpful and often
results in an extra attack while leveling up. This spell should always
be Extended and takes most of your level 5 slots.
At epic levels, this can be seriously abused for huge AB bonuses.
-- Haste/Battletide - Both spells give you Haste, which adds a bonus attack
at full Attack Bonus. It also grants +1AC and +1AB.
The big decision you face is whether to use Haste or Battletide.
Battletide gives you Haste, PLUS does some other stuff
(+2AB, +2dmg for cleric only, minus same to foes if they fail save,
and looks cool). So it always is better if you are solo, since spell
level and duration are exactly the same. However, Haste spell affects
the WHOLE GROUP!
Now, you can choose Time domain to get haste at level 3. This means
it is now PERSISTABLE!!
Here is my criteria:
If you expect to party with others at all, go with Time Domain to get
If soloing, you can make the decision. Persistent haste is pretty awesome,
but battletide adds some nice extra benefits and also grants haste.
At 20 cleric these 3 spells alone (assume battletide used) provide
+10AB, +5damage, +1AC, and TWO extra attacks!
At 30, it jumps to +13AB thanks to scaling Divine Power.
For playstyle you start with buffs. DO NOT OVERBUFF, as it takes too long.
You have buffs for every situation, but most are not needed. Note you will
need to recast often to keep Divine Power and Haste/Tide up.
At 20, these have a 4 minute duration extended. Not bad, but not great.
This is why I don't recommend trying to pick up other short-duration
buffs like barbarian rage, divine shield, dwarf defensive stance, and so on.
As you approach level 30, depending on build you will squeeze a bit of
extra duration out of your buffs.
You will carry a small complement of offensive spells for pulling.
Go around a corner and sonic burst a group of mobs, then duck around
the corner. They follow you, and their archers/mages lose line of sight.
As the round the corner, you beat them down. This buys you a bit more
time and positions the fight much better.
Your lower spells 6th or less are used for buffing. Your high level
ones are used for heals. (gr resto 7th, ext regen 8th, mass heal 9th)
Lets take a look at how to build a Warrior Cleric correctly.
As a battlecleric, you will likely multiclass. This and other factors
limit the recommended races. Any small race is out due to the -2STR
and they have to use a small weapon. Another factor is that you need
high STR and WIS. In fact, my best choice is Human/Dwarf.
After careful analysis, I cannot find any compelling reason to go with
any other race that is worth the price.
Dwarf - Gain 2CON, but lose 2 INT basically. Gain Dwarf Axe proficiency,
but lose a feat. Its a wash. You may go Dwarf for flavor under certain
conditions, but human is generally better.
Elf - Free longsword/rapier is nice, but stats come up lacking, as does
loss of bonus feat. -2CON is a bummer. Drow don't really gain anything
useful for the ECL price.
Aasimir - +2WIS is great, but -2INT, -1 feat, +1ECL makes it a net loss.
Half-Orc - +2 STR is tempting, but -4 INT and loss of a feat make it not
worthwhile. Don't have the attribute points to pull this off.
Deep Gnome - The only advantage is the +4AC, plus size bonus which is kind
of a wash. Well, the Spell Resistance is nice too.
3ECL is really harsh though, as is the -2STR, lack of feat and XP penalty.
Only go deepgnome if you are heavily twinked on a server and are in love
with high AC.
Earth Genesai - An odd choice, but if using The Great Cheeze, it might
work out. -2WIS is managable, and -2CHA is not a problem. In exchange,
we get a fat +2 STR AND CON! +1Lvl Adjustment is a bummer though.
The figher favored class works out pretty well for multiclassing.
For a human, I would recommend:
STR: 16 +2 = 18 (Good AB/dmg)
DEX: 12 (Max +1AC in full plate)
CON: 14 (Decent HP bonus)
INT: 10 (3 skill points per level)
WIS: 16 +3 = 19 (9th level spell access)
CHA: 8 (2 turn undead per day)
Feel free to lower DEX and raise INT. The only use for DEX is to
get to 12 (or 16 for mithril plate) for AC reasons. Items can
certainly easily make up the difference, and you get extra skill
points for doing so.
The Great Cheeze!!!
As a warrior cleric, you arent so concerned about great spell DCs.
Nor do you need tons of bonus spell slots. Soo, you can gimp your
WIS and use items to make up the difference!
i.e. a 14WIS cleric with +8WIS item = 22WIS, which LETS YOU CAST
9th LEVEL SPELLS!!
Even an earth genesai with 12wis works out beautifully.
If using the Great Cheeze, you can lower WIS to 14, and raise STR to 17,
PLUS all 5 (7 epic) pumps can go into STR.
As a warrior cleric, you want domains that assist you with fighting.
MotB was very disappointing, as you get 1 UBER domain and a bunch of
very mediocre ones with garbage spell selection.
You can choose from the following Big Three:
-- toughness - Very nice free feat, gained at level 1.
-- Stoneskin - Awesome spell that stays useful for the entire game on
most servers. It basically adds a lot of bonus HPs and
is castable on your party.
-- Energy Buffer - getting it at 5 instead of 6 isn't that helpful.
-- Improved Initiative - so-so feat.
-- Haste at level 3! Persistable!! Incredibly good.
-- Premonition 7 - Very strong damage reduction. I kind of prefer
stoneskin since it absorbs about the same damage and is lower level.
Basically, as per the previous discussion:
If you will be with a party 25% of the time or more, go with Haste.
Otherwise, just use battletide. Hence, you can skip this domain,
and consider Plant. Note that Premonition replaces stoneskin, BUT
you can actually have BOTH on you! Once Prem wears off, SS takes
over. So there is value in taking both.
-- 10% move outside - so-so.
-- barkskin - very nice buff and frees up an amulet slot basically.
This is pretty much mandatory if using The Great Cheeze without
really high levels OR a friendly druid/mage to cast barkskin.
Note at epic levels, the +5cap and ability to put several things
on an amulet start negating the need for this domain.
-- other spells: the other spells are garbage. Free slots basically.
None of the other domains are really any good. A few are tempting,
-- Free Weapon focus with diety weapon. Free useful feats are good.
-- Flame Strike 4 - Fairly worthless.
-- Power Word Stun at 8th lvl - No Saving throw, so might be kind of usable.
I do not think it is worth giving up one of the Big Three though.
Travel (Got demoted with Time domain in)
-- 10% move - Seems to work in heavy armor, despite description.
Grants the barbarian move ability feat.
-- Freedom of movement - gained at 3 instead of 4 is worthless.
-- Haste - The reason for taking travel, but received at level 5.
Hence, this domain is garbage now.
-- Smite Infidel: The high damage bonus is nice, but at only one hit,
once per day, CHA-based, it is weak.
-- Rage: Note that this rage spell DOES NOT act like barbarian rage...
i.e the stats are NON-STACKING enhancement bonuses. A real
barbarian rage is a morale enhancement that stacks.
Animal/Death - The companion is quite weak and more trouble than it is worth.
Good - Aura is nice, but not really needed with protection from evil spell.
Strength/Fury - They use CHA-based abilities and thus are worthless.
None are nearly useful enough to consider high CHA for.
-- Divine Might: No, you cannot Persist it even though you get it at
-- Tensors Transformation - It seems tempting, but is completely worthless.
It is a POLYMORPH effect that removes most of your item bonuses,
resulting in a horrid AC, no item immunities/abilities and a fast death.
-- Enlarge person - a really weak version of Righteous Might which
itself is poor.
Healing - bah. Getting heal at level 5 is mostly worthless.
Empowered healing is a joke, and doesnt work with any good
healing spells anyways.
New MotB domains - Several have nice bonus feats, but garbage spell
selection. I'd rather get Earth and toughness with good spells, and
take Blindfight, than get Darkness w/ crap spells and take tuffness.
In other words, a feat is a feat. Warrior clerics have enough to pick
all the necessary warrior feats.
For a battle cleric, your feat choices are pretty loose.
They vary based on your multiclass choices since that gives you more or
less feats to work with. Very few of them are essential though.
Here are the recommended ones:
** Luck of Heroes - Essential. +1AC always, and +1 all Saves.
MUST PICK at first level!
-- Martial Weapons - You get this free if multiclassing. Should
never actually pick this one.
-- Exotic Weapons - If you do not get martial free from multiclass,
this is tempting for katana/b-sword/dwarf-axe.
-- Tower Shield prof - Very rarely would you ever want this, but can
get for free as Fighter or Warpriest. Possibly useful for
certain servers with uber tower-shield, despite AB penalty.
** Weapon Focus - A very strong feat. Take it always. See weapon
selection section for details.
** Extend Spell - ESSENTIAL. You have several short-term buffs that
must be extended.
** Persistent Spell - ESSENTIAL. This allows persistant Prayer and
Divine Favor, which is key.
-- Power Attack - Its a prerequisite only. Not useful with a 1-hander.
-- Cleave - Free attack is very nice, especially for leveling. However,
P/A and cleave are NOT essential.
-- Blind Fighting - Pretty important pick. Apparantly, even with True Seeing
you STILL get stuck with the 50% concealment penalty in darkness
or against displacement, invisibility, etc.
-- Improved Crit - Not needed if you expect a keen weapon (doesnt stack),
OR have a bludgeon wpn since you have a keen spell.
** Practiced Caster - ESSENTIAL if you multiclass. REQUIRES 4 ranks of
Spellcraft. DON'T BUNGLE THIS!
-- Power Crit - Decent, but not amazing. Don't be confused. When you "crit",
now you must reroll as if you are attacking again. If it misses,
then your "crit" becomes a normal hit. This feat gives +4 to
the "confirmation roll" (the second "attack"). Hope that makes
sense, as it's a major change from NWN1.
Certain other prerequisite feats may be needed for some multiclass combos.
Feats to avoid are:
-- Great Cleave - Getting more than 1 cleave per round is rather unlikely,
making this feat a waste. Clerics never use 2handed weapons,
which is best with great cleave.
-- Dodge - Not bad, but 13dex requirement is a waste of attribute points.
-- Improved Power Attack - It's just not very good for a 1hander.
-- Divine Might/Shield - Avoid since they are CHA-based, and adding CHA
would seriously dilute our other important attributes.
-- Toughness - Note that you ALREADY GET it from earth domain for free.
It is worth picking up, if you dont get it already.
You have rather few skillpoints, so are somewhat limited here.
Remember you can always subtract DEX to get INT, ONLY if you expect to
find an item with DEX on it very soon to avoid AC loss.
Best skills are:
-- Concentrate - Important since you need to rebuff or heal in combat
occasionally. Note that you can skimp on this skill some
if going warpriest due to Combat Casting required.
-- Tumble - Even at 1/2 value, it is useful for the +1AC and small
chance of avoiding attacks of opp.
-- Spellcraft - The saving throw bonus is nice. You NEED 4 ranks to
multiclass and take practiced caster!
-- Healing - Very useful, as a good heal roll can cure poison/disease too.
-- Use Magic Device - Even 5 ranks (adjusted for CHA) allows use of scrolls
and other minor items. Maybe split Spellcraft and UMD.
Consider taking, but DO NOT raise above 5 (adjusted).
With 30 levels, it MIGHT be worthwhile to grab 15 to use
Sun Soul boots, and other clickie items.
f) Weapon Choice
Your choice of weapon depends on whether you multiclass, or go human, or
want to pick Exotic weapon. Overall it does not matter that much.
Warhammer and Morning star do the best damage of their types, and also are
bludgeoning which is rare. Plus, you have the Weapon of Impact spell that
makes them keen.
Whatever you do, DO NOT use a 2handed weapon ever. You do not have the
high STR to make the 50% more STR bonus effective. Also, with your
damage bonuses from various buffs, the extra few points of average damage a
larger weapon does is not worth the loss of the huge shield AC you can get.
Since you do not have any special AC bonuses such as Red Dragon Disciples,
Dex-based characters, or even 20 tumble, losing the shield will cause you
to absorb a lot more damage in melee. You are guaranteed a shield that is
+1 every 4 caster levels.
Dualwielding is out as well, due to the number of feats needed and the fact
that you dont have the DEX to get more than 1 offhand attack. Not to
mention the AB penalty and huge loss of AC.
If you are really in love with dualwield, check my advanced build guide
for one such cleric/monk/fighter that does so effectively. It is a very
unconventional build however and not recommended for most.
The following is a list of the best spells by Spell SLOT level.
I only mention spells that are particularly useful or that I have
commentary on. Some are pretty obvious and not worth discussion.
Note: Ex stands for Extended Spell. Pretty much all buffs should
*Prot Alignment - A key buff. Has built-in extension, and provides
immunity:Mind. The +2 saves is nice too.
Ex bless - decent. affects whole party with 1 casting which is nice.
*Ex divine favor - Load up with these from level 6 to 12 ONLY.
At 13, remove and replace with other spells, since it
will be cast as persistent.
Sonic Burst - Adequate long range offensive spell for getting monster's
attention. Used for pulling only.
Darkness - Rarely used, but when/if you get blindfighting it
works pretty well vs enemy melee. DONT use on casters.
Ex bear's endurance - Pumping up your HP is nice but hardly essential.
Note though that it adds +2 to your concentration rolls which can be
very handy at mid-levels to perhaps lower defensive casting failure
from 10% to 0%... until you can find a permanent CON item.
Ex Aid - Useful solo at lower levels for +1AB. A lower priority buff however.
Protection Energy - Great long lasting buff. Use if you expect casters
and elemental damage, especially at lower levels where
the damage shield is relatively powerful.
Remove Disease - Keep one of these handy, just in case... unless you have
maxed healing skill.
Dispel magic - Worth keeping on your battle-bar.
** Stoneskin - No need to extend this. Amazingly good spell, effectively
doubling your HP and making concentrate checks easy.
Castable on party too. Load up with lots!
Ex Prayer - Marginally useful if in a party. Otherwise, dont bother.
Note this will be Persistant at lvl17 casting.
Ex Weapon of Impact - This spell is a good reason to take morningstar or
warhammer as your weapon choice. Adds about 8% more
Ex Magic Vestment - Don't forget this can be used to guarantee magical armor
OR shield. Generally only used if unlucky, low magic
module, or if you find some amazing armor,shield with
great properties but crappy enhancement bonus.
Ex. Blind Sight - Situationally useful.
Neutralize Poison - Keep one handy unless you have maxed heal skill.
**Ex Divine Power - Already discussed. Load up with these.
Ex death ward - situational. NOTE that it comes with negative energy
protection built in now which protects against level drain,
negative energy, and other bad things.
** Ex Battletide or Haste - Already discussed. Load up with tons of these.
*Ex Spell Resistance - One of the best defensive buffs around.
You resist 55% of an equal level caster's spells!
**** Persistent Divine Favor - Learn it! Remove the extended ones at
level 2 slots.
Persistent Lesser Vigor - Free 1 pt of regeneration permanently. If on
a low magic world with little resting, this could be pretty valuable.
*Greater Restoration - This is a FULL heal, not capped. Plus it removes many
other harmful effects. Carry several of these.
Ex. Stone Body - Very situational. Penalties are harsh, bonuses weak or
redundant. However, weaponmasters, monks, and rogues
will loathe you, since stunning fist, sneak attacks, and
huge crit bonuses are completely negated by the Immunity
to Crits that it provides.
If you use this, you have permanent stoneskin so keep that
in mind. Extended to move it out of the valuable
Word of Faith - A great offensive spell with no save. Basically it blinds
all foes and gets rid of summons.
*Ex Regenerate - A really good pre-emptive heal spell. 20 rounds of 10% heal
per round is extremely good before a big fight. Scales
really well for epic encounters.
Ethereal Jaunt - i.e. Escape Hatch. In multiplayer where you cant reload
and death penalties are harsh, use this if you get in over
your head. Extended to move it out of the crowded lvl7
* Persistent Prayer - This is a nice buff for your whole party. It
automatically debuffs enemies for the same
1ab,ac,save with NO saving throw (unlike battletide).
As a permanent aura, this is a pretty good spell.
Persistent Mass Lesser Vigor or Pers Vigor - Handy on modules where you
can't rest very much. Or, if you do not have regeneration
items. Unsure if they all stack or not: i.e.
Pers Lesser + Mass Lesser +Per V = 4 regen per round for u.
Mass Heal - A capped 150HP heal isn't so great, but multiplied by a big party
makes this somewhat useful. I still wouldn't take it, except
when fighting undead. Then, it heals all the good guys, AND
smacks the undead for 75HP(they are very likely to make their
save) in melee with them as an added bonus. Note that UNLIKE
Pen&Paper, it is not capped at 250 HP.
Storm of Vengence - A really handy offensive spell for a tough fight.
3d6 acid guaranteed to only enemies is nice. Plus, it
has a small chance (DC23ish) of zapping enemies for 3d6
more AND causing a 2 round stun. It does this EVERY
ROUND, which is what makes the spell so good. Even a few
1s rolled to stun over its duration makes it worthwhile.
Energy Drain - Now that the save has been removed, it is possibly useful to
soften up a nasty foe. -5 average levels is no joke.
Note: Monsters with high Spell Resistance will shrug it off.
Here is a discussion of some spells to NEVER take:
Any Cause Wounds spell - They are just horribly bad, and have no range.
The very few offensive spells you use are either used to Pull,
or as crowd control/mitigation.
Any offensive spell besides low level pull spells (sonic burst) or high
level mitigation (word of faith, storm) - Don't use. You are a warrior.
Beat them down and support the party.
Summon Monster - Not terrible, but not very useful either. Too short
duration to be of much use.
Any undead summon spell - Absolutely horrible. Much worse than summon
Gate - You get a horned devil now instead of a NWN1 Balor.
The Summon 9 is much stronger, though the weak spells he cast are
marginally useful vs crowds.
Righteous Might - Worthless. Adds 3 magical dmg per hit, but lowers AC,
and the other bonuses DO NOT STACK. The so called
damage reduction doesnt seem to work.
True seeing - Use blindsight instead. Its just as good, and level 3.
Heal - Crap. It is capped at 150 HPs. Greater Restoration is MUCH
MUCH better and only 1 level higher.
Harm - Garbage. Capped at 150HP, requires a touch attack which
is no problem. Allows a SAVE, which IS a problem. They will eat
75 damage 90% of the time.
Aura vs Alignment - Horrible. Its duration stinks, its SR granted is weak,
and the +4deflection AC is worthless.
Undeaths eternal foe - Weak. Short duration, and Death ward provides most
of the same benefits for much longer.
h) Multiclassing Considerations
A warriorcleric can do quite well without multiclassing. However,
multiclassing is not a bad idea at all. It does slow the cleric spell
progression, but this is not so big of a deal for a warrior cleric.
Remember that practiced caster ensures scaling spells continue to work.
(i.e. a cleric7/fighter2 has a +3 divine favor since caster lvl = 9)
In epic levels, you don't need more than 20 total clerical casting
levels max. So you have more latitude for multiclassing after level 20
There are a few things to consider:
a) You will want practiced caster feat, which requires 4 spellcraft ranks.
b) You need 17 caster levels of cleric... so you are very limited on how
many levels of multiclass.
c) You would probably want several warrior levels to get feats and more
d) Obviously, watch for XP penalty if you went nonhuman for some reason.
e) Do NOT put points into Concentration and other skills if they are not
class skills of the new class. Just hold the skillpoints, or put into
tumble as paying double is wasteful. Plan accordingly.
In other words, weave the class levels so you can pay minimum price for
things like concentration and spellcraft.
f) Your BAB CONTINUES TO GROW after 21, unlike PnP or NWN1. You want high
BAB classes to help your fighting ability grow.
f2) However, you can use Divine Power to "cheat" your BAB to 30, regardless
of multiclassing... while the spell stays active of course. :-)
Here are the top options:
1) Fighter - Provides free towershield, martial and bonus fighter feats.
One level can be taken early on at level 2 to jumpstart the warrior
progress. 2 fighter levels, one early, one later is the best choice.
Taking Fighter post 20 results in bonus feats!
2) Barbarian - 10% Move (IF not travel domain already, since they dont stack),
martial wpns, and Rage. Rage stacks with enhancement bonuses, but it is
quite short duration and you have enough short duration buffs already.
A so-so choice.
3) Neverwinter Nine - Decent option as it has no prereqs except +6 BAB. A
single level provides a +2saving throw aura to your buddies and a slight
4) Stormlord - See next section. Decent choice.
5) Sacred Fist - See next section. Decent.
Here are some marginal options:
Dwarven Defender - tempting, but it needs extra feats as prereqs including
Dodge(13dex). Not worth the bugged stance and +1ac to me.
Monk - You lose 1 BAB, but monk is tempting on certain servers to provide
heavy AC bonuses if you go Dex-based. This goes hand in hand with
Frenzied Berserker - You already have toughness most likely, and the frenzy
is very worthless since you have haste already. It
is not a good match for cleric at all, since FB's use
2handers with huge STR for heavy Power Attk damage.
Ranger - They just don't have much, and do not synergize well with cleric.
I don't want leftover druid spells, nor do I want bad dualwielding
if I wear light armor. NOR do I want a level 4 bear pet at lvl30!
Rogue - access to rogue skills like tumble and sneak. Weak due
to weak BAB and lack of enough skillpoints to take advantage of
the better skill access. With 30 level cap, rogues do look up
Epic characters with 30 levels opens up warrior cleric builds a LOT.
I still recommend getting in most of the cleric levels early on for quick
VII. Clerical Prestege classes.
With the expansion, I added a special section for the cleric PrCs. These
are the classes that get some clerical progression built in.
The stormlord is an interesting and powerful class for a warrior cleric. It
provides some interest for a caster cleric. Specifically, the electrical
immunity and Knockdown immunity+superhaste Storm Avatar ability.
However,it is probably not worth the prerequisite feats since caster clerics
are somewhat feat-strapped as it is.
For a warrior cleric, they will likely be multiclassing anyways and may be able
to pick up some of the prereq feats from domains. Once that is done, it is
simple to replace 8 cleric levels with 8 stormlord and take no BAB penalty.
Taking the final 2 SL levels is a matter of debate, as it guarantees -1BAB most
of the time. This highly depends on how much you plan on relying on Divine
Power to make up the BAB difference, or if the extra abilities are worth it.
Stormlord has FULL casting ability. SL levels are the same as cleric levels
basically, except no turn undead progression. Lets face it, warrior clerics
tend to multiclass which pretty much hozes your Turn Undead anyways.
Stormlord gains the following abilities:
* Up to +3 enhancement for a SL weapon. An SL weapon is the spear plus any
thrown weapons. This bonus actually STACKS with existing enhancement!
* Electrical Resistance. Increases to 15, then grants complete immunity at
level 9 SL. Nice to have.
* Pumped Weapon - This is a clickie that has unlimited use and grants 20 rounds
of pumped weapon. It adds the following to any SL weapon (defined above).
1d8 electric, 2d8 on crits, 1d8 sonic (gained in that order). It is
irritating to have to click before every battle though.
Remember, you are a Cleric and already have to deal with several other short
* Avatar - At 10th lvl, SL can cast this at CHAR LVL, extended automatically.
(i.e. level 30 caster gets a 60 round one) Adds 3-18 more electrical per hit.
Pumps speed to 200%. The main benefit is IMMUNITY TO KNOCKDOWN!
You also can use thrown weapons moderately effectively. Equip a shield/dart
and you are good to go. The darts will be +3, and add 2d8 elemental. You
are unlikely to hit much though due to poor DEX and lack of enchantment bonuses
on darts. Still, it might be useful in a pinch.
The downside is that you need to take Great Fortitude which is weak. Plus,
toughness which is alright. And then you must weapon focus in a SL-weapon,
which is typically Spear.
Another big problem is that you are pretty much stuck using... a spear!
Spear is a weak weapon and loses 2.5 damage compared to greatsword. You
more than make up for that, but let's ask a better question... How many
warrior clerics run around with 2handers?!? None! Since so much clerical
damage comes from buffs and not high STR, most prefer the use of a shield.
Plus, a shield keeps you from getting beat up when casting in combat, whereas
a 2hander is not. At level 15 onwards, you are giving up 7AC(+5 hvy shield)
to equip a spear! NOT a very good tradeoff most of the time.
ProTip 1: Take Monkey Grip so you can use a spear in 1 hand and still use
a shield. You trade 1 feat and -2AB for lots of shield AC and item bonuses.
ProTip 2: Use Improved Power Attack and high STR to make the Spear hit
really really hard. Adding 5 Frenzied Berserker levels for Really Improved
Power Attack and supreme cleave is well worth it. Plus, FB gives the
toughness prereq for free.
ProTip 3: Earth Domain also provides free Toughness plus Stoneskin access.
War gives free weapon focus with Spear-diety plus PW:Stun (nosave) access.
Skills: SL uses the typical Spellcraft, Concentrate. Note that it LOSES
Diplomacy and Heal skills, to gain Intimidate. Keep this in mind that
you will likely need extra skillpoints to keep these up to date.
Conclusion: Stormlord is quite powerful. But as you find epic weapons with
4d6 x3 elemental damage, the 2d8 +3 bonus from SL starts to pale in
comparison. Do not sacrifice excessive feats just to pick up SL.
SL is best with fighter levels to add feats, especially in epic levels.
Warpriest ok to provide full BAB and still advance spell potential somewhat.
Divine Power is abusable with low BAB builds.
cleric8/StormLord8/WarPriest10/Fight4 - 26bab, 21 casting level.
2-3 bonus epic feats thanks to fighter.
cleric8/SL10/bard2/RDD10 - 21BAB(use Div Power), good skills, stats, AC, etc.
B) Sacred Fist:
Sacred Fist is a Cleric/Monk hybrid. At first glance it seems extremely
powerful. However, you eventually will notice that several of the
mechanics seem to work against it and you wind up with a character that
is a mediocre monk and cleric.
Caster clerics could benefit from the speed boost, as well as the improved
AC (in theory at least). This works adequately at higher levels, but
makes progress slow and painful early on due to a loss of spell progression.
Even worse, adding SF guarantees the cleric will not grab free epic feats
at 23,26,29 cleric since they toss in 1monk,10SF minimum.
Warrior clerics will do much better. The trick is determining exactly how
much cleric vs. how much monk you want to go with. I should note that
you CAN NOT use SF as a free BAB booster, then play normally.
The bottom line is that you must play as a monk hybrid.
Note that equipping ANY weapon will cause a -8AB penalty!
You will need 1 level of monk plus combat casting to quality. DO NOT try
to go SF without taking a monk level! This basically means that most
races are unsuitable since they eat 20% XP penalty right off the start.
The primary advantages of the SF are as follows:
* Move speed bonus - SF levels stack with monk levels and provide speed
bonus based on the Monk movement chart.
* AC bonus - +3 at level 10. This compensates for not having monk levels
which give +1ac per 5 levels.
* Spell Progression - Gains full spell levels as if a cleric level was
taken, EXCEPT at levels 4 and 8. So SF costs 2 levels to take.
* FULL Fighter BAB progression! This is really nice, being better than
either monks OR clerics. If only one could take SF past 10 levels...
* Sacred Flame - The main combat ability. Adds from 15 to 25 fire damage
per hit to attacks for 10 rounds. This is a really nice ability, but
only usable once per day. Great for boss fights!
* Uncanny Dodge - Even monks dont get this. Really good for chars with
lots of dex-based AC.
* Inner Armor - +4dodge AC for WIS modifier rounds. I would expect pretty
low duration though, as WIS mod for a warrior cleric is around 7.
* Unarmed Damage - Derived by adding monk levels to SF levels, and checking
the monk chart.
Here is an AC comparison to clear things up: (I hope...)
A 20 cleric will have mithril full plate and a +5 hvy shield let's say.
That is 8AC + 7AC from shield = 15 AC from armor that the SF couldn't get.
Note in this example I am comparing the DIFFERENCE between the two. Either
one can get +6 plate or +6 robes, so there is no use comparing that.
In the same way, 15tumble is +1AC, vs 30 tumble = +3, a difference of +2.
The sacred fist cannot use any armor/shield Instead, their armor advantage
is based on WIS bonus +extra DEX bonus (over the +3 mithril plate allows)
+1 or 2 from Tumble +3 from SF +1 for every 5 real monk levels.
Assuming +8 WIS item, a warrior cleric will probably have 28 WIS at the
highest. That is a +9AC bonus.
Assuming a +6 DEX item, a warrior cleric will have 20DEX highest. This
is a +2AC bonus (over the +3 allowed from mithril plate)
Grand total = 8wis +2tumb +3SF +2Dex = 15 AC.
AC Conclusion: Sacred Fist style of play breaks even with Armored Style,
and does not provide much AC advantage, if any.
SF must use Gloves as a weapon slot. That means no +8AC bracers!
Caster SF can actually gain some AC over Armored playstyle, due to
their very high WIS.
Example: 1m/10SF/19cl has 40WIS(With +10 item), and 22DEX (+8 item).
AC advantage over mithril plate cleric: +15WIS +3DEX +2tumble +3SF = 23AC
8 platemail +10 (+8hvy shield) = 18.
Problems with Sacred Fist:
- Monk gloves are usually inferior to weapons. A weapon has special
materials to penetrate DR. Open hand does not. Nor will you have
enough monk levels to gain their DR pierce capabilities.
Plus, monk gloves have no enhancement bonus.. it is +AB only.
- You get no glove slot, because that is your "weapon slot" now. Kiss
that +8AC bracelet goodbye...
- You get no Spell Resistance. The clerical spell can compensate tho.
- You don't remove Flurry penalty until monk lvl 5 and lvl 9. Greater
flurry is achieved with 11 monk levels for an extra attack.
Conclusion: SF lets you play as a mediocre monk with cleric buffs.
It works reasonably well, but not as much as one might expect.
1monk/9cleric/10SF - Beginning caster cleric build. Adds 10 more cleric
during epic levels, but no bonus epic spells gained.
Wisdom gained +improved WIS,DEX items should allow AC to outpace loss
2monk/8cleric/10SF - Warrior cleric build. 17bab, 2d6dmg. Adds 1 cleric
at 21 for 9th lvl spells, and 9 more monk. Gains Greater Flurry,
imp Knockdown, 2d10 dmg, and so forth. Best overall fighting build.
8monk/2cleric/10SF - Take 2cleric for 6th lvl spells, 8 monk for
many monk abilities including admantite strike. 3d8 dmg.
The warpriest is a fairly weak prestiege class, but has much more
versatility than the others mentioned here. Think of a warpriest
as a fighter... except every other level it assigns you a feat
that gives 1 full clerical casting level, instead of you picking.
The prerequisite is Combat Casting... one of the most useless feats
in existence. (Skill focus:concentrate is much better). It also
requires 4th lvl divine spells, and 8diplomacy, 5 spot. Yuck!
It really works better for druids, Favored Souls, and Spirit Shamans
although those classes lose a lot of their special abilities to
The WP has the following advantages:
- Full fighter BAB progression. WP is used to squeeze out a few
extra points of AB.
- 50% clerical progression. Every even level gives 1 full clerical
- Provides Martial Weapon and Tower Shield proficiency. This is usually
not really necessary though, and kind of a waste for clerics.
IN fairness though, Favored Soul, Druids, Spirit Shaman can definitely
benefit from the armor proficiencies, and can spare the skillpoints too.
- War Glory - +1 to hit for all allies, EXCEPT YOU. -1 saving throw for
all enemies. It is only a 10 foot radius, which is about that of a
sonic burst or implosion. (i.e. tiny)
- Inflame - Up to +10 saving throws vs fear/mind! Except for one problem:
It lasts FIVE rounds. Plus, a 1st level spell pretty much negates
- Remove Fear - Hmph. If you had cast Protection from Alignment, your
allies wouldn't be feared in the first place...
Plus with a short-cast range, you have to CATCH them first.. :-)
- 3:Mass cure light wounds - Here comes the big problem with these spell-like
abilities. They are cast at the WP level! That means as a 10th level
caster, BEST CASE SCENARIO! Wow, watch my 17th level character drop a
huge 11-18 point heal on everyone.
- 5:Fear Aura - A clickie ability that casts Fear once per day. The DC will
be laughably low, so don't bother. 10 +WP-lvl +CHA bonus.
Remember that Favored Soul will have a high CHA, so it will work MUCH
better for them.
- 6:Battletide - Hey great! Except for the 10 round maximum duration. A 30
cleric can extend battletide to last 60 rounds in comparison. At once
per day, it is not worth even putting on the bar.
Once again, the druids/shaman can benefit, since they don't get this spell.
- 7:Haste - 3x per day. Lousy duration, but druids/FS/Shaman love it.
- 9: Mass Heal - Onc per day. Finally, something useful! Except will only
heal for 100 maximum. Any undead targeted will easily Spell Resist.
Nice for druids/Shaman.
- 10: Implacable Foe. All allies (cept you of course), get 20 HPs!!!
Ten rounds later, they all LOSE 20 HPs. Apparantly this is SO powerful,
that it is only usable once per day and HALVES your movement for 10rounds.
I can't see this being useful for anyone...
Despite the long list of special abilities (which are mostly worthless), the
WP compares unfavorably to an Eldritch Knight.
A cleric that goes 10WP gets: 20HP, 5 casting lvls, proficiencies, lame
abilities, and +33% to BAB (from 3/4ths to full)
A sorc that goes 10EK gets: 20HP, 9 casting lvls, 1 free (crap)feat,
no abilities, and +100% to BAB (1/2 to full)
The EK has martial wpns as a prereq, 3rd lvl spells, and no skills, vs
the WPs, worthless combat casting, 4th lvl spells, moderate skills.
The second major failing of Warpriest is the existence of Divine Power.
This spell lets you have as low BAB as you want and STILL be uber.
ex: 9cleric,19wizard,1PM,1rogue with 15BAB gets 30BAB with Div Power!
This kinda defeats the purpose of Warpriest to some degree, although
the less buffs you have to use, the better.
cleric16/Warpriest10/Fighter4 - 26bab, 21 cleric access.
vs cleric20/fighter10 which would result in 25BAB only.
VIII. Conclusion, Copyright, and Contact info
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