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A Critique of Reactions to Utoya

Posted on Friday, August 5 @ 09:54:44 Eastern by oblivion437

This post began as a comment on Josh Laddin's Manifesto post - "Revolutionary Rant: Video Games Did Not Cause the Norway Shooting". My comments are too long to post there, so they go here.

I'm going to be as kind as I can possibly be to those falling prey to a breed of political animal known as blood dancers*. this is a tragic event, and people want an answer, an answer that leads to a straightforward political-economic solution (ban violent video games, ban guns, ban Christianity, ban libertarianism, ban any ideas to the 'right' of Josef Stalin) is even better when that solution is no more conceptually sophisticated than swinging a club at shadows. The desire for this answer is very strong; so strong is the desire that the purported solution may be incoherent, it may be obnoxious and it may cause more harm than good, but it comforts a weary or even frightened mind.

Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories are still alive and well. In the wake of the Giffords shooting some on the American left were doing contortionist acts to try to blame the shooting on Palin and other conservatives while ignoring Loughner's obvious mental imbalance. Witch burnings went through a sharp uptick in the wake of the end of the medieval warm period and numerous failed harvests.

Likewise here; I've heard Breivik called a libertarian in the American sense (he was not, in fact, he explicitly rejected libertarianism because it was diametrically opposed to the ideology he claims he was advancing) and a Christian fundamentalist (he was not that either, as his manifesto - which is in part plagiarized from the Unabomber - makes clear) but a more accurate assessment - that Breivik was unhinged and thus likely to commit acts of violence whether in the name of nationalism or anything else - is not very satisfying to the desire for a clean, comfortable answer which soothes our prejudices, quiets our fears and forgives our consciences. It does not offer an easy solution or a simple 'insert Tab A into Slot B' approach to prevention of further tragedy. It does not give us leverage or ammunition to scold our political foes into silence.

Lee Harvey Oswald was a deranged loser who desperately wanted to be somebody. The Columbine killers were psychopaths whose relationship mutually fed into and reinforced their pathology. The answer, 'crazy people do crazy things and there's no easy way to predict that' doesn't admit a simple solution. Passing a law won't stop them for one cannot legislate sanity. Blaming anyone whose ideas sound even slightly like the crazy person's won't stop them because the difference between normal people with crazy ideas and crazy people with crazy ideas is in the person and not the ideas. Banning dangerous objects from private possession will not stop them for they will find new means to commit violence.

"It's easier to pull video games off of shelves than it is to fund mental health outreach programs. " -- danielrbischoff

Damn if that ain't the truth. It is always easier to wield the stick of the law in a vague and self-congratulatory manner in the wake of tragedy (how many laws in America today are named after the victims of high-profile heinous crimes?) than to carefully examine the causes, and to be humble in one's conclusions. That smacks of hard work and one cannot stop for hard work in the middle of a good blood dance*.

* The Blood dancer is the political cousin to the ambulance chaser. Moving from one tragedy to the next, he does his song and dance routine about how this latest turn of events absolutely justifies his pet policy prescriptions and how 'the debate is over' on the topic. Some key traits - he will cite 'hundreds of studies' or 'thousands of studies' that 'all confirm one thing' and that one thing is, of course, his policy prescription. Rarely is a single actual study cited. If cited, no mention is made of the reception the study got in the peer-reviewed literature, criticisms made, or how they affect the weight the study lends to his thesis. If one tries to tease out the fundamental reasoning behind the policy the motives of the questioner are impugned. If he is sophisticated enough to be an ideologue he is also sophisticated enough to lie about it, and does. In Harry Frankfurt's sense of it, the blood dancer is a pathological bullsh** artist whose medium of choice is human tragedy.
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  • tinymhg
    tinymhg - Joined: Jun 22, 2011
    WOW! Color me impressed. A well thought out and reasoned blog by somebody with a brain! I tip my hat to you, Sir.
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    Posted: Aug 5th, 2011 at 10:25 am
  • Lien
    Lien - Joined: Feb 1, 2008
    I had to admit, when they said he was a christian fundamentalist, i actually believed this... Thinking back on it, i realize that "wait what?" feeling. Seems easy to blame on organizations and people then the killer himself. Wanna curse someone? Curse this craziness but above all else, curse the killer's craziness.
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    Posted: Aug 5th, 2011 at 11:49 am
  • C_nate
    C_nate - Joined: Apr 19, 2009
    John Stewart had a nice segment about this topic a few days ago with which I agreed entirely. If some wack job middle eastern guy does something like this and identifies himself as a soldier of Allah or something, then everyone in the media is quick to call him a radical Muslim. This guy on the other hand was some crusades nut but everyone is trying to distance him from Christianity. Complete double standard.

    The common denominator here is organized religion which sadly is interpreted by unstable people in a way that lets them justify doing terrible things.
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    Posted: Aug 5th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg - Joined: Jun 22, 2011
    "... interpreted by unstable people in a way that lets them justify doing terrible things."


    Sorry, I just want to emphasize this point, and say “Amen Brother” to it.
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    Posted: Aug 5th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
  • Ranim
    Ranim - Joined: Nov 30, 2005
    Campers! Everybody hates campers!
    1 1Like or Dislike?
    Posted: Aug 5th, 2011 at 4:11 pm
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg - Joined: Jun 22, 2011
    Your name won't be Jason Voorhees by any chance?
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    Posted: Aug 5th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
  • leavesofgrass611
    leavesofgrass611 - Joined: Aug 6, 2011
    My problem with this opinion is that it seems to say that all violence is caused by "unhinged" people. That all murderers are insane, psychopathic people. That culture, politics, religion, philosophy, ideology, all these human aspects are only for rational, moderated debate: that it is impossible for sane people to feel that murder and violence is justified to get things done. You could extend this argument to war, that war is simply a bunch of psychos doing psycho things. Seen from that perspective, the argument that only insane people will do these things appears ridiculous.
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    Posted: Aug 6th, 2011 at 7:07 pm
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg - Joined: Jun 22, 2011
    I’m sorry, but I would like to respectfully disagree with you. I don’t believe that oblivion437 is suggesting violence is only caused by the "unhinged" people of this world. This commentary is narrowly focused and is only aimed at one very specific type of chaotic violence that the world sees from time to time. Man is a inherently violent creature, he will and often does strike out with force, however mental instability isn’t the most common reason for these outbursts. oblivion437 has not tried to encompass all reasons for all violence, but is trying to say that for this particular incidence, and others similar to it, there are no easy answers for who is to blame other than the insanity of the perpetrator. Any attempt to extrapolate the reasons for all violence from oblivion437’s words would be specious at best, cretinous at worse.
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    Posted: Aug 7th, 2011 at 4:03 am

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