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Posted on Monday, November 5 @ 09:53:05 Eastern by Jonathan_Leack
Those are some mighty fine visuals you have there, Mr. PC.
Those are some mighty fine visuals you have there Mr. PC.

Everybody enjoys good graphics. If you could play a game you’re interested in with even better visuals, why wouldn’t you? That’s exactly why the PC has recently re-emerged as a dominant platform for core gamers, and is growing in popularity after a couple generations of console prevalence. Judging by the specs of unreleased consoles, it appears that this trend will continue heading into the future.

Although the next PlayStation hasn’t been announced, recent rumors claim that it utilizes an AMD APU. These rumors line up perfectly with what you’d expect after watching trends with overheating and high manufacturing costs posing huge consequences for Microsoft and Sony respectively. In contrast to previous hardware, an APU would offer a low heat signature to prevent significant failure like Red Ring of Death, and would also make it much easier to deliver an attractive price point to consumers.

Using an APU isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but it’s a radical departure from the high end Nvidia 7000 series equivalent that the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 employed. Even the most powerful APUs on the market don’t come close to matching what discrete graphics are capable of. Sure, 1080p and 60FPS will be possible, but the quantum leap we've seen from one generation to the next will be missed making it even more challenging for Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo to push their latest gaming solution.

The Nintendo Wii U is releasing this month and uses an embedded chip based on the Radeon HD 5000 series, a line of cards that appeared in 2009. It’s certainly a step up from what the Wii offered, but it’s already dated by PC standards. It even raises questions as to whether or not it’ll be multiplatform capable once Sony and Microsoft release their competing hardware.
 

Meanwhile, PCs are continuing to evolve at a dramatic pace. Nvidia and AMD release a new generation of cards every year and each time they show major benchmark improvements. Similarly, new CPU archictures and PC exclusive features such as tesselation, Eyefinity (3 monitors to create one massive resolution), and PhysX (see above video) are constantly being improved.

Due to the fast cycling of PC technology, prices have become more reasonable than ever. A gaming PC that can run absolutely everything out there with visuals that even the next generation of consoles likely won't even be able to compete with with can be had for fewer than $600. Oh, and backward compatiblity definitely isn't a problem considering you can play over 30 years of industry-defining games from one machine.

Consoles are great for local cooperative experiences and a few noteworthy exclusives, but those of us who enjoy visual excellence and technological evolution will have only one choice next generation, and that choice is PC.


Comments
  • wildmario
    wildmario

    Joined: Jan 2007
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 10:31 am
    Is that the only reason to play PC games? Because of the graphics?


    I know graphical technology is always improving, but I am worried that despite 25+ years of gaming, developers still only focus on making things look impressive but focus on little else, like making sure there aren't game breaking bugs on day 1 or having to patch the game several times to fix broken AI.
  • Jonathan_Leack
    Jonathan_Leack

    Joined: Jan 2012
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 10:40 am
    Other qualities are much more challenging to quantify. If you look at SimCity, Dota 2, and other PC exclusives you'll see some things that consoles simply don't deliver at all... but what do you call that?

    The graphics enamor so easily, though!
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg

    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:57 am
    Truer words have never been spoken. PC's also have better CPU's, Hard Drives, graphic cards, and memories than dusty old consoles. Thus they can play games like Civ 5 and those Jonathan talked about. PC's rule, consoles drool.
  • FATAL1TY
    FATAL1TY

    Joined: Nov 2005
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
    Don't forget about mods and when your game starts to show it's age. There are always texture packs lying around.
  • OdiousLupous
    OdiousLupous

    Joined: Jul 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    :Hugs pc tower:
  • OdiousLupous
    OdiousLupous

    Joined: Jul 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
    Thats why consoles need to always be around, in the end its the only thing keeping pc games honest. No competition and theyll slack off on quality. Now the pc gaming industry seems to be listening too much to their financial depts and not enough to the game creators and the fans. When a game developer does listen to their fans and improve their games we applaud it, but shouldnt they all be doing that to some degree?
  • cheesegod99
    cheesegod99

    Joined: Jun 2007
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 10:45 am
    It's still hard for me to justify plopping down $1000+ on a top end gaming rig, knowing that it might be out of date in as little as 2 years... as opposed to buying a $500 console with a guaranteed life-span of at least 5 years.
  • Lenin17301
    Lenin17301

    Joined: Jan 2007
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 10:58 am
    While I was a hardcore defender of PC gaming, I'm sad to say that I agree with this comment 100%, buying an Xbox 720, Orbis, or whatever the next-gen consoles are going to be called, and knowing that you're going to be able to play new games for such a long a period of time beats even the most monstrous PC gaming rig out there.
  • Jonathan_Leack
    Jonathan_Leack

    Joined: Jan 2012
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:40 am
    You don't need a top-end gaming rig. You can build something that produces outstanding visuals for $600.
  • Andy578
    Andy578

    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    it doesn't cost 1000+ but lets just assume it does for the moment, it will not be out of date that fast, most everything except the video card will be more then enough to last quite awhile and thats where PCs really shine over consoles if you find something you think is lacking you have the option to upgrade it

    also really the money you save on games will kinda even out upgrade costs anyway, most PC games off the shelf are about $10 less then consoles plus you get steam sales which can be really massive, also theres no fees to play online like xbox live, not to mention mods and all that to extend the life of a game without shelling out $15-$20 for some DLC

    consoles are developed for a few years before release which results in them already being dated by the time they are actually released and currently there is nothing to improve them so your stuck with the same crappy hardware for years and years leaving little room for games to actually advance
  • OdiousLupous
    OdiousLupous

    Joined: Jul 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 9:02 pm
    Think how many copies of ARMA2: Combined Ops sold because of the DayZ mod. Friggin amazing.
  • sandineyes
    sandineyes

    Joined: May 2008
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:01 am
    I love consumer electronics, and parting out and assembling my own PC is about as fun as fun gets, but you can never make a price argument about PCs over consoles. A $500 gaming PC, sure. Try 200-300 dollars and you'll find yourself using an AMD Trinity part with integrated graphics, and it will still be less powerful than a game console at the same price.

    Sure, PCs are a bit more useful than the average console, but for non-gaming computer-related tasks, notebooks and other mobile devices are now extremely popular, so saying that a desktop is the one-stop go-to device for gaming and productivity is just not going to work for many people.
  • Sourdeez
    Sourdeez

    Joined: Feb 2012
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:02 am
    Im one of the few people that while I can agree gameplay is important. So is story(set and setting) and graphics. These are technical representations we are talking about here. Really the only time the pc argument breaks down is if there is a console exclusive that is really good but really thats just the distortion of capitalism.
  • Sourdeez
    Sourdeez

    Joined: Feb 2012
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:10 am
    P.S. Good Article Johnny. Black ops 2 and Assassin's Creed 3 will be the second and third game also to support TXAA a new type of temporal anti aliasing only to nvidia 600 series cards. Your favorite game to hate was sadly the first to try it out.
  • Jonathan_Leack
    Jonathan_Leack

    Joined: Jan 2012
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:41 am
    Thanks!

    TXAA is utterly beautiful. Most people would be surprised how important aliasing is to a sharp visual presentation.
  • Fieperskaivu
    Fieperskaivu

    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:07 pm
    Pumped to play AC3 on PC, just gotta wait and avoid spoilers till I get to try it out. Got a 670 a few months ago and am loving it.
  • Ivory_Soul
    Ivory_Soul

    Joined: Nov 2005
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:11 am
    You don't have to upgrade PC hardware as often as you used to. It is so advanced now that your motherboard can last you probably close to 10 years. A top of the line rig should be good for around 5-7 with just minor upgrades. Hardware is so cheap nowadays that almost anyone can afford it.
  • Jonathan_Leack
    Jonathan_Leack

    Joined: Jan 2012
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 11:50 am
    Not to mention diminishing returns.
  • Andy578
    Andy578

    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:47 pm
    PC hardware has a lot longer life span then it used to, a mid range video card for example should last you about 3 years with a few exceptions due to some really demanding PC exclusives

    the gaming rigs you hear about that cost 2000+ are really just some rich guy buying everything top of the line with a few extras you really dont need such as solid state drives and liquid cooling, they are more nice to have things or just simply bragging rights

    also you CAN keep the comfort you get with a console, use your nice big HD TV as a monitor and use a wireless keyboard and mouse, hell you can throw in an xbox controller if you really want the console feel
  • Andy578
    Andy578

    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 1:48 pm
    oh and for you playstation guys you can also use a ps3 controller but last i tried(years ago) it was a bit buggy
  • Ivory_Soul
    Ivory_Soul

    Joined: Nov 2005
    Posted: Nov 6th, 2012 at 2:42 pm
    MotionJoy is the way to go for that. Pretty flawless now.
  • Chunibrow
    Chunibrow

    Joined: Mar 2010
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:25 pm
    The thing PC users have to keep in mind when comparing PCs to consoles is that a lot of console players don't play on PCs, a fact that's only increasing as more casual gamers are being drawn to consoles. Consoles and PCs need to be viewed as similar but different experiences, even though they play many of the same games. I recall an article some time ago about how the new Xbox processor is allegedly 6 times better (or something) but that it would still be far behind PCs when it came out. But it doesn't need to graphically be on par with PCs because many Xbox users don't play PCs so they don't know or care. As long as consoles try and keep up with each other they are doing their part for the consumer. The best graphics will always be for PCs and that's just fine.
  • Andy578
    Andy578

    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    actually quite a few console gamers are shifting to PC, im sure casuals will eventually get more into it and make the jump too, i agree a console is fine for what they do but to get the true gaming experience you really need to be using a PC
  • Chunibrow
    Chunibrow

    Joined: Mar 2010
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 3:20 pm
    I agree the PC is definitely the all-in-one package. Mine is unfortunately broken right now so it's the crappy laptop for PC gaming for me. Although I just bought 8 old Forgotten Realms games on GOG so I'll have no shortage of good games until the tower is fixed.
  • THEundying27
    THEundying27

    Joined: Sep 2012
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:46 pm
    Excellent article. I'm planning on putting a pc together sometime in January. Ill send you a pm later today maybe you can shoot me some tips? It would be much appreciated
  • Andy578
    Andy578

    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 2:50 pm
    heres your first tip, NEVER NEVER NEVER cheap out on the power supply, it is literally 1 of the most important parts and cheaping out on it can cost you your entire system
  • cyberjim2000
    cyberjim2000

    Joined: Feb 2010
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 4:18 pm
    I recommend checking out this tutorial from Newegg if you've never built a computer before:

    youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
  • R0ADK1LL
    R0ADK1LL

    Joined: Jul 2009
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 3:51 pm
    I just recently built a gaming pc which cost me about NZ$2800 (US$2300 at today's exchange rate) & that was only the box, not including monitors, peripherals etc. This should keep me playing games at ultra high settings for at least the next couple of years, but that's the price of longevity. Building a $600 machine every year or two is not cost effective in the long run, my GTX670 cost me NZ$760 & that was a great deal so I don't think the $600 goal is realistic at all in this country but I know that a decent gfx card will probably survive to the next build as well.

    I have a PS3 but I got a bit sick of average graphics & bugs (thank you Skyrim). With an HDMI splitter to a big screen & an xbox controller emulator, I can still get all the benefits of console gaming with the purrty graphics & added functionality of a PC. If the next gen of consoles is just a hardware upgrade on the current gen, without bettering my PC specs, why would I buy one? Exclusives? Maybe.
  • ShadeTail
    ShadeTail

    Joined: Nov 2006
    Posted: Nov 5th, 2012 at 5:27 pm
    Speaking as primarily a console gamer, this is precisely the reason why I laugh when my fellow console folks start having dick measuring contests over which system is more powerful. If you want power, dudes, you're in the wrong place. Consoles have always been weaker than current PCs, and they always will be. Their main selling point is *affordability*, which they accomplish by using hardware from yester-year. And as a secondary selling point, they are stable platforms, meaning no real spec or hardware changes for at least five years. That makes them easier to develop for, compared to PC games that have to strive to accommodate a wide range of specs and hardware configurations.

    But power? Graphical quality? Nope, consoles aren't the platform for those things. For that, you go PC all the way.
  • moretokes
    moretokes

    Joined: Apr 2011
    Posted: Nov 6th, 2012 at 2:30 am
    I like pcs for mods and the accuracy of a mouse .... I lIke consoles cause I can actually choose to walk or to run
  • moretokes
    moretokes

    Joined: Apr 2011
    Posted: Nov 6th, 2012 at 2:30 am
    I like pcs for mods and the accuracy of a mouse .... I lIke consoles cause I can actually choose to walk or to runIn certain games

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