Video Game Violence Revisited

Duke, I agree with what you have to say, but I have to also say that it's pointless to point out that every direction they've attempted has failed miserably, because people for the most part merely to the fact that people don't want to hear the truth, but what they want to hear. It's wide eyed ignorance.

Ranim i agree, but it takes people like Duke to show people how willingly ignorant they really are. Thanks Duke, this is the kinda stuff that keeps me coming back here.

Keep fighting the good fight. I find it funny how society is so quick to find the nearest scapegoat to blame all their problems on when they don't want to admit that they, their kids, etc. are at fault.

This fight will never end. I'm getting sick of it, mainly because it's just widely accepted that video games cause violence. Anytime I try to calmly and maturely debate otherwise, people look at me like I'm trying to stick up for big tobacco or something. There are studies that prove a "casual" link to real world violence and the games/music us young kids are playing, sure. But why is it every time I try to point out a study that proves otherwise, THAT study is just labeled inaccurate and quickly dismissed. People hear what they want to here isn't always true. For example, I don't want to hear people supporting this claim, but they somehow manage to not shut up.

They don't want to hear the real problem--bad parenting--so they direct their blame toward the nearest and newest scapegoat--in this case, video games. After all, admitting bad parenting is the problem would be admitting fault and we can't have that in today's world.

Now, in all fairness, it isn't always bad parenting. I'm not saying it's the games, mind you, I'm saying some people are just f-ed up. Penny-Arcade touched on this recently, but basically, there are some people that are just plain wrong in the head, and the best parenting in the world can't help that.

The real problem is that, when people, namely teenagers do something incredibly stupid, or violent they always blame it on some game they played. Now this isnt saying that all people do that, but the parents should have taught they offspring to better understand the difference between what is real and what isnt. Apparently the new generations of kids lack parents who are able to grasp this concept or parents who are unwilling to lay blame on their child for being idiotic.

I love the part where he starts mis quoting the surgeon general warning... You said "It doesn't say that I have it right here." Amazing

I would have loved to have had that discussion which you had Dr Bushman. I've done my dissertation on the effects of violent video games, and would love to discuss the holes in his research with him (holes with would stop most half decent psychologists from following his conclusions). The best conclusions I have seen so far is that by James Paul Gee (famous researcher into this), who said that claiming video games caused teenage violence is like saying food causes obesity.

thewy should look at the scores of games that they would consider O.K. and then the games that they deem unsuitable for any age. the 'violent games that induce teenage violence' get such high ratings, while the nice little games are usually crap.

Yeah Video Games dont cause violent behavior. I have never played GTA and then wen out and shot a dude for his wheels, its to messy. Brains everywhere and, ugh, anyway I digress. Guns don't kill people, people kill people, guns are just innocent bystanders, as are video games, Revolution!