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BioWare: Calling Next Mass Effect ME4 "Is Doing It A Disservice"

Posted on Thursday, February 7 @ 07:53:30 Eastern by Alex_Osborn

Don't expect the next Mass Effect to pick up right where ME3 left off, as BioWare has made it clear that the next game will not serve as merely another chapter in Shepard's story.

Over on the studio's official forums, community manager Chris Priestly hinted at what is to come with the next entry in their epic sci-fi franchise, saying, "To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here." 

He then went on to add: "We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying ‘well, they’ll have to pick a canon ending.' No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda.”

This, however, doesn't mean that your previous saves from earlier games won't carry over, as the decisions you've made could still have a bearing on the universe at large. BioWare Edmonton boss Yanick Roy addressed this and more on the forums, saying:

Thinking of the next Mass Effect game as Mass Effect 4 would imply a certain linearity, a straight evolution of the gameplay and story of the first three games. That doesn’t mean that events of the first three games and the choices you made won’t get recognized, but they likely won’t be what this new story will focus on.

If you had three games centered around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another.

You likely would have to recognize how the events of the first war influenced the ones of the second, but you would not necessarily think of it as a sequel. Again, the analogy is not great, but what I’m trying to say is that the ME universe is so rich that we are not limited to a single track when coming up with a new story.

What makes it Mass Effect is indeed the alien races, the technology, the lore, history, etc. You can safely expect those in the next Mass Effect.

So there you have it. An entirely new story set against the backdrop of the star-studded universe we've all come to know and hate love. Are you excited for more Mass Effect? Let us know in the comments below.

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  • xavier_2000_ie
    xavier_2000_ie

    Joined: Jun 2007
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 8:29 am
    Played and enjoyed the first Mass Effect. Unfortunately the second and third are still on my "to play" list (its quite a long list)
  • Alex_Osborn
    Alex_Osborn

    Joined: Jan 2012
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 9:01 am
    Those should be on the very top of that pile!
  • ballabert
    ballabert

    Joined: Jul 2011
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 11:25 am
    actually it might be best to clear your plate before getting into 2 and 3, I picked up Dishonored when it came out and didn't touch it til last week cause I stopped playing ME3!!!!
  • Sourdeez
    Sourdeez

    Joined: Feb 2012
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 11:05 am
    Hopefully this time they wont kick out the rest of the writers and only have 2 people working on the ending.
    "the game's finale was written by Casey Hudson and lead writer Mac Walters without any input from the rest of the team, and many protests from the other writers were ultimately ignored."
  • ballabert
    ballabert

    Joined: Jul 2011
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 11:24 am
    I've been playing ME2 and 3 for the past 3 months (taking a month long break for Feb, and its hard). I'd be really excited about this game but I think it would be really difficult to tie in a prequel or a sequel. I think a prequel would be the easiest (the endings in ME3 are all so radically different how could you expand on that without having a game that was actually 3 (or 4) different games?
    It might be more beneficial to come up with an original story (but I love the ME universe so much).
  • KaiserKold
    KaiserKold

    Joined: Apr 2007
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 11:38 am
    I have faith in them and am excited for a new entry in the series. That being said, they definitely shot themselves in the foot with those ending choices, if they are not going to canonize one. If the new game takes place a thousand years later, they will have to come up with a way to lessen the impact of your choices!

    Spoilers:

    For instance what will the role of the Geth be? The Reapers? The Quarians or Krogan? They all have the potential to be effectively destroyed or doomed depending on the player choices. So even if it is a thousand years after the ending of the trilogy, the absence of the Krogan seems like a big deal. Can they possibly cater to every major choice made the player? I don't believe so. Will one player (me) see Geth, Quarians and Krogan, but no Reapers, while another player sees Reapers and Geth, but no Quarians, etc? (Reapers and Geth, I suppose could be explained by being deep into dark space at the time of the activation of the catalyst)
  • KaiserKold
    KaiserKold

    Joined: Apr 2007
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 11:40 am
    I have faith in them and am excited for a new entry in the series. That being said, they definitely shot themselves in the foot with those ending choices, if they are not going to canonize one. If the new game takes place a thousand years later, they will have to come up with a way to lessen the impact of your choices!

    Spoilers:

    For instance what will the role of the Geth be? The Reapers? The Quarians or Krogan? They all have the potential to be effectively destroyed or doomed depending on the player choices. So even if it is a thousand years after the ending of the trilogy, the absence of the Krogan seems like a big deal. Can they possibly cater to every major choice made the player? I don't believe so. Will one player (me) see Geth, Quarians and Krogan, but no Reapers, while another player sees Reapers and Geth, but no Quarians, etc? (Reapers and Geth, I suppose could be explained by being deep into dark space at the time of the activation of the catalyst)
  • KaiserKold
    KaiserKold

    Joined: Apr 2007
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 11:41 am
    Sry, I don't know why this posted twice.
  • drathbone
    drathbone

    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 12:13 pm
    I was always really fascinated with the Krogan and their history. A prequal game about the Krogan Rebellions or their involvement (or just a general game) around the Rachni Wars would be awesome, yet I would think unlikely.

    Otherwise I have faith. There's a lot of potential with the ME universe. I still haven't finished ME2 (and got 3 sitting around waiting for me lol) but I love the trilogy/universe nonetheless.

    At this point, is player influence an expectation? I would be fine (maybe the only one) with a game that doesn't have such drastic effects on canon as long as the story remains solid. Building official canon around multiple endings for prequals/sequals/paralell stories would seem to makes things more difficult from a storyline standpoint without importing save files.
  • Jessica_Vazquez
    Jessica_Vazquez

    Joined: Sep 2010
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 12:19 pm
    I think calling it ME4 is a bit boring, especially if it isn't a continuation of that story arc. If they want to make it different why can't they name it Mass Effect: Krogan Wars or some bull **** like that, something that references the direction they're taking it? Is it really that difficult? So many franchises just slap a number at the end of a title. Can they try and be a little more creative with it or is that too much to ask from a video game company these days?
  • KaiserKold
    KaiserKold

    Joined: Apr 2007
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 12:24 pm
    With respect, I think that was the point of the article. They don't want to call it Mass Effect 4.
  • R0ADK1LL
    R0ADK1LL

    Joined: Jul 2009
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 12:53 pm
    They can't really make a sequel without picking a canon ending. Without spoiling anything, the effects of your final decision have a pretty profound impact on the entire universe if I remember correctly.

    I am actually quite excited to see another game set in the Mass Effect universe though. They've created some great lore & it would be interesting to see a non-human protagonist in another game. I think trying to follow the same timeline wouldn't be the greatest idea, maybe they could even just forget importing saves. I'm sure there will be haters, whatever they do, but hey, if you don't like a game, you don't have to play it.
  • oblivion437
    oblivion437

    Joined: Nov 2006
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 2:28 pm
    I'm going to be a total cynic about this because being cynical is my only real talent. If it's set after ME3 it will probably box up the entire trilogy in just such a way that it can get away with retconning anything which might get in the way of whatever they've decided they want to do. If a prequel it will be able to avoid the elements of the controversy entirely. In any case not calling it ME4 is most likely part of an attempt to simultaneously repair the franchise whilst avoiding fixing any of their previous substantive mistakes and avoiding drawing undue attention to those mistakes. Hopefully everyone paid to write a word on the game in the preview mill/launch mill will deny them that, making it just another sequel with a needlessly ungainly title.
  • tearatherflesh
    tearatherflesh

    Joined: Dec 2012
    Posted: Feb 7th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
    I'd personally like to see a game that takes place in a past "cycle", ever since hearing Javik from ME3 talk about how different all the races were in the previous cycle. It would be the same setting and races, except a fresh look on universe history, creature designs, etc. Like, what would humans look like? Bioware could go completely wild on the story and look of the world without being constrained by the past trilogy.
  • Delta47
    Delta47

    Joined: Feb 2008
    Posted: Feb 8th, 2013 at 5:32 am
    I would enjoy a mass effect where the universe isn't on the brink of destruction and everyone isn't watching you. Being a less high profile character with an agenda that isn't to save the universe would be fun i think
  • cheesegod99
    cheesegod99

    Joined: Jun 2007
    Posted: Feb 8th, 2013 at 7:40 am
    They built such an intricate world, filled with fascinating characters and places. Then they painted themselves into a corner with no way to continue the story - the world, even. Because of the end of ME3, they either need to do a prequel (not as interesting in my opinion) or retcon the trilogy. Which would be a mistake.
  • iamspecial107
    iamspecial107

    Joined: Feb 2013
    Posted: Feb 12th, 2013 at 4:08 pm
    The canon they made for themselves is so absurdly rich with possibilites, and like you said, a sequel is nigh impossible with the ending of the third. Personally, I'd love to see something with a Privateer type vibe with space combat and trading. (Space pirates anyone?) Throw in the cover based shooting mechanics, add a dash of RPG elements like when the franchise started (when it was Mass Effect, not Mass Appeal EA Money Grab). I'd love to see players given the opportunites to be space pirates, or bounty hunters, or even law enforcement in the ME universe. That'd make my pants tight.

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