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Home News Carmack Shakes the Earth with RAGE Xbox 360 Install Size

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Carmack Shakes the Earth with RAGE Xbox 360 Install Size

Posted on Monday, August 8 @ 08:25:41 Eastern by


22 gigabytes. Or 22,528 megabytes, which makes it sound even worse. That's how much space you'll need if you want to install RAGE to your Xbox 360. I don't have to tell you that's a lot of HDD space. There are no partial installs, either. 

id Software mastermind John Carmack broke the news during his QuakeCon keynote address:

On the 360 we don't have a partial install option; it's all or nothing, which is kind of unfortunate. It means you have to install 21-22GB (which takes a long time), but if you get it and play it on the 360, that's the way to go.

Before PS3 fans start high-fiving over Blu-ray's massive storage capacity, Carmack says that Blu-ray is worse than DVD in "total latency time", and that the PS3 has memory issues:

The PS3 has a good bit less memory available than the 360 because it's got a split memory space where you use as much texture as you want and the rest of it's available for other things...

Carmack also voiced frustrations that consoles are too far behind what PCs are capable of now:

It is extremely frustrating knowing that the hardware we've got on the PC is often ten times as powerful as the consoles...

But the PC isn't in the clear either, as Carmack says that it has "been a struggle in many cases to get the game running at 60 frames per second on the PC like it does on a 360".

If this were someone else, I'd comment on how they seem to be bitching about having to do their job. But this is John fucking Carmack. He can bitch all he wants. I'll still buy his games. You can watch his entire keynote below:
Related Games:   Rage
Tags:   QuakeCon, PC, Xbox 360


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  • WILLS_COOL_MODE
    WILLS_COOL_MODE
    Joined: Oct 2010
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 9:04 am
    In the youtube freeze frame he looks like Doctor Betruger from Doom 3. I hope someone else is as entertained by this as I am.
    0 1
  • MarkyBee
    MarkyBee
    Joined: Mar 2007
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    I am. A skinny Dr Betruger admittedly.
    0 1
  • danielrbischoff
    danielrbischoff
    Joined: Nov 2009
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 9:11 am
    What a negative nancy.....

    As for PS3/Xbox 360/PC: I don't have a PC powerful enough for RAGE... yet, my 360 hard drive isn't even big enough, regardless of clearing space, and my PS3 apparently has a shitty OS...
    So am I not supposed to buy your game?
    0 1
  • acdibble
    acdibble
    Joined: Jul 2007
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 9:23 am
    Yeah my HDD is only 20 GB in size...
    0 0
  • TheJx4
    TheJx4
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 11:34 am
    the PS3 really does have a shitty OS. Also, you don't know what I'd give to get rid of the XMB.
    0 0
  • cyberjim2000
    cyberjim2000
    Joined: Feb 2010
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    I watched part of it and it seems like he's just pointing out the difficulties of development and the "best" way to play the game. You could still play the game without installing onto your Xbox 360 or on a PS3 if you're willing to ignore graphical anomalies.
    0 0
  • devaldogz
    devaldogz
    Joined: Apr 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 9:22 am
    So your making a game that looks like I would buy it, but telling me if I do than I'm out of space for other games. Bummer...RAGE just went to the bottom of my must have list. So I must have AFTER I get sick of COD, Skyrim, Batman, and BF3.
    1 0
  • TheJx4
    TheJx4
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 11:36 am
    Get a bigger hard drive.
    0 1
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 10:21 am
    *splashing sound* PC’s Rule! Consoles Drool! (Bite little fishies… bite.)
    0 1
  • xxmrcyanidexx
    xxmrcyanidexx
    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    are you George Costanza?
    0 1
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    *recording* "Sorry, tinymhg cannot comment at this time due to having been MURDERED by apache helicopters raining Hellfire missiles down upon his head. Have a nice day."
    0 1
  • danielrbischoff
    danielrbischoff
    Joined: Nov 2009
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    youtube.com/watch?v=ria37d9mInY

    This is your answering machine.
    0 1
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    If someone were to read this comment thread with little or no reference as to what is going on, they would be justified in thinking us insane.
    0 2
  • xxmrcyanidexx
    xxmrcyanidexx
    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    That's if you want to INSTALL it to your hard drive right? If you just want to rent the game or just play off the disc on your XBOX, you could right?
    0 1
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
    I watched the whole thing. And yes, he says it would the absolutely slowest/worst way to do it, but it should work.
    0 1
  • cyberjim2000
    cyberjim2000
    Joined: Feb 2010
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    (-_-)
    0 1
  • cyberjim2000
    cyberjim2000
    Joined: Feb 2010
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
    Whoops, seems like it cut my post. What I meant to say is my head exploded after watching this video. It feels like John Carmack is teaching a computer programming class. A refreshing change from a marketing PR person promoting the game.
    0 1
  • drathbone
    drathbone
    Joined: May 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 8:53 pm
    Totally off topic.....but the how the f*ck did you post that without the spam filter stopping you? Please enlighten us all.
    0 1
  • cyberjim2000
    cyberjim2000
    Joined: Feb 2010
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 9:33 pm
    (-_-;)
    0 1
  • usaglory
    usaglory
    Joined: Mar 2009
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    Seems like they got to work a little on their programming skills, you can't fit a square peg into a round hole (unless the peg is really small or the hole really big but that's besides the point) so you gotta program your game in a way it will fit the console it will be running on without creating such issues.
    0 1
  • WILLS_COOL_MODE
    WILLS_COOL_MODE
    Joined: Oct 2010
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I liked the part where he said John Carmack has to work on his programming skills.
    0 0
  • UpAndAtThem
    UpAndAtThem
    Joined: Mar 2009
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    But PS3 fans CAN start high-fiving over the ability to easily upgrade the hard drive to any 3rd party laptop drive, no hacks required, and not even void the warranty in doing so.

    If only Sony had put the effort into making a decent web browser that they put into this nice touch that few take advantage of.
    0 1
  • TheJx4
    TheJx4
    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
    Sony doesn't give a **** about anything on the PS3 that isn't Move or 3D related.

    I still don't understand why pressing the PS Button when you receive a message doesn't just go the message. It brings up the entire XMB. Utter nonsense.
    0 0
  • Diabolus
    Diabolus
    Joined: Nov 2008
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 11:09 pm
    Optional install? Case closed.
    0 1

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