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Jaffe: Twisted Metal Delay Is "So F***ing Win/Lose With People"

Posted on Monday, August 8 @ 14:19:52 Eastern by


Anthony Severino revealed earlier that the modern reincarnation of Twisted Metal has been delayed from its October 4th release date into the vague scope of early 2012.

Many journalists and fans, including us, began musing that this was a deliberately strategic move to push Twisted Metal out of the holiday block, up against heavy-hitters like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3, Battlefield 3, and Uncharted 3. This rather reasonable prediction, however, has sent David Jaffe into a grammar-destroying tizzy:

Regarding the peeps thinking we delayed TM to get away from mega games like CALL OF DU, UNCHARTED 3, &BATTLEFIELD 3: amazing how the world has conditioned them2B so cynical. I get it-you don't respond that way unless u've had xperiences that bear out your world view but when u R the guy on the other end of it- as I am now-it's amazing how little trust there is in the world when companies issue a statement. It makes me question my own cynical views of politicians and wonder if I've been too black/white in how I think about this stuff.

For what it's worth I would have no problem admitting moving TM to early 2012 was only to better our chances at sales. Why NOT admit that? Admitting we need more time than we promised doesn't HELP us look good as developers, so why offer that up if it were not true? Admitting we wanted to better time than we promised doesn't HELP us look good as developers, so why offer that up if it were not true? Admitting we wanted to better more strategically position our game makes us look like we are doing good biz, so why not admit that? What, you think we don't know and are afraid to acknowledge MW3 and Unch3 and BF3 are staggeringly larger and more successfully franchises than Twisted Metal?

It's all so fucking Win/lose with people. What have we been conditioned into?!? It's like the gamers and the biz folks have been so trained to only care about who wins and who gets their ass kicked that there is no room to appreciate a game can do well enough to turn a profit and please many fans. But doesn't have to win awards like 'most money made in a weekend by an entertainment product'.Sure we all want that success but it's not the only definition of financial, social, creative, or execution success. There ARE still some shades of gray...

My wavering respect for him as a writer aside, I think that it's within any developer's right to delay a game to make it better, though I don't believe any company should nail down a release date for a game until it's absolutely certain. It just creates headaches, bad press, and a lot of pressure if the game's just not ready yet. It's just bad business.

People are naturally programmed against "loss aversion"; we would rather have someone say that they're giving us $5 rather than giving us $10 and taking $5 away. While I think the gaming world loves the whole win/fail schtick a bit too much, Jaffe can't take away our right to be disappointed.

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  • danielrbischoff
    danielrbischoff

    Joined: Nov 2009
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    Jeez Jaffe, calm your crazy self down. Like anyone cares about it being delayed anyways.

    Me? I'm most upset that our "Twisted Metal (2011)" game page is titled so incorrectly!
  • Masterwabbit
    Masterwabbit

    Joined: Mar 2009
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    My opinion on delays:
    If you delay it to a specific or relatively close time, I trust the devs in fixing whatever bugs they ran into or that they need the extra time. I'm patient and understanding enough for that.
    If it's delayed with a vague timeline, I question why they do it. Could be business strategy, could be needing more development time.
    If VALVe is announcing a delay, drink another shot.
  • shandog137
    shandog137

    Joined: Mar 2007
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    Prime example of the industry stress. There was a time when games were just silly diversions for kids now you start talking about a multi-billion dollar industry and people are ready to jump out the window like it's Black Friday due to a development delay. I like the advancement in technology due to the huge influx of development dollars but the community just aint the same...Duke...you out there bud?
  • C_nate
    C_nate

    Joined: Apr 2009
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    I don't get why some people get their panties all up in a bunch about delays. My, opinion is more games need to be delayed. Far too many publishers throw out a date for a game and they put that MF'er out there whether it's done or not. Which is why you have some games that need to be patched right out of the box. Inexcusable.

    I applaud any game people who aren't afraid to admit the game is getting pushed back because it needs more polish. I feel that much more confident they are putting out a competent product and will be more inclined to but it when it comes out as opposed to waiting a few months for all the early buyers to beta test it for me.
  • wildmario
    wildmario

    Joined: Jan 2007
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
    Sometimes delays don't help make a game better. Just look at Duke Nukem Forever with 13 years of delays. It still sucked.
  • OdiousLupous
    OdiousLupous

    Joined: Jul 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
    That wasnt so much delayed as it was redone with newer game engines over and over. Im gonna write a 1000 page novel... oh wait now Ill write it in italics..... now Ill write it in Helvetica.... what decade is it now? What century is it now? Noooooo!!!!
  • TheJx4
    TheJx4

    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
    I couldn't finish reading...
  • Lethean
    Lethean

    Joined: Jan 2001
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 9:48 pm
    Me on delays? I don't care. I'm not entitled to anything special. If it's a better product, fine. I think the only time I was bummed by a delay wasME3. I think. See...I can't even remember.
  • Diabolus
    Diabolus

    Joined: Nov 2008
    Posted: Aug 8th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
    Twisted Metal 2 is, and will always be, the best Twisted Metal game. This new game will be a letdown, and I don't care which burger-endorsing deity of evil that this fatass sells his soul to. IT WILL NOT measure up, and you can quote me on that.
  • tinymhg
    tinymhg

    Joined: Jun 2011
    Posted: Aug 9th, 2011 at 7:05 am
    "...burger-endorsing deity of evil..."

    Do you mean Krusty the Klown?

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