Sidhe Co-Founder: Wii U Projects Canceled, "Platform Is In Serious Trouble"

I bought a wii U day one (I'm a nerd.... deal) and in a sick way I want to see them fail. I can't stand the dumb decisions they continue to make and would almost rather them just be a third party developer on more powerful systems (as long as they don't turn to complete crap like sega). I would rather play a metroid game on PS4 over wii U any day of the week. Anytime I play a Nintendo game these days I think "this game is great.... but imagine how much better it would look/be with 360/ps3 graphics".

All 3 of us are ****ed apparently. Hurry up exclusives! Save us!

In a world without tables and smartphones, 3 console makers was a barely sustainable prospect. Now? I'm doubtful...

Oh well. Back to TF2.

Not to mention the flood of incoming low-cost console options.

A bit funny how everyone was so pumped up for all the future games Nitnendo announced and now everyone is saying the system is screwed beyond saving.

I think the problem is people keep buying new consoles at launch and then complain there's nothing to play right now. The Wii didn't have anything exciting on launch (Twilight Princess doesn't count for it's a port of a GC game) and the Wii-U doesn't seem to have anything other than Nintendo Land and NSMBU. I'm betting by the end of this year there will be at least something worth getting. The 3DS also had a shaky start until it started pumping out games.

If Nintendo was God, you would get into heaven without a doubt. You sir have an unshakable faith in Nintendo the likes of which have been lost upon mere mortals like myself.

I really wish the reply feature wasn't limited!


But to respond in the post below, it is true that I do have some form of faith in Nintendo, but there were times during the Wii days that I wondered what the hell they were doing with some of their games and I have written a blog a few years back question as such. I guess you could say I have faith in Nintendo because every time people always say "Nintendo has to do X or they're going the way of Sega", it never happens. It's like those people who keep saying the world is going to end on a certain date, and it never happens. Sure, Nintendo is far from perfect or doing the more sensible thing, but in the end, I want em around, if only for the games they make. Not to mention I like to see how people react to me defending Nintendo when appropriate.

The issue here is everyone looks at Wii sales numbers and instantly thinks that Nintendo can replicate that sucess by basically releasing a slightly improved Wii and calling it next Gen. The biggest reason for Wii's stellar numbers were first time console buyers like moms,dads, aunts and grandparents. Those buyers WILL NOT be back this cycle. If you can't attract core gamers and solid third party devs, it over this time around. Mobile gaming has an impact, but think about this: did the fact that you can play angry birds for free on your phone (or any other game designed to pass time on a train et al) even enter your mind when deciding what console(s) or games for consoles to buy?

What I think Nintendo is trying to do is starting to cater back to the core gamer while letting 3rd parties pick up the rest of the slack. The whole fiasco over what is "next gen" seems to be boiled down to "whatever is more powerful that what we currently have, but that's another story for another day. When you think about it, people said the Wii needed an HD upgrade and....well, they got exactly what they wanted, no? Troll logic, I know.It's not even half a year yet, so I rather wait a year or two before I can make a final judgement on whether or not Nintendo needs to shape up or whatever.


You say Nintendo can't compete against mobile games where all the casual gaming goes, but then I ask you this; if mobile games are the next big thing, does this mean making games like God of War or Call of Duty is just a waste of time when you can make an Angry Birds rip off to the masses knowing it will still sell?

I agree with you on the mobile gaming issues. My point was that although mobile games have an impact, it's grossly overstated when applied to core gamers and their purchase decision making.

Well I was going to get a Wii U with my tax refund but I think it won't happen any time soon until Nintendo announces a price drop, gives a solid release date for its first party titles, and the announcements of new software incoming. I dealt with this crap from Nintendo after I purchased a Wii at midnight the day it came out and then had to wait for what felt like years for something to come out(minus all the shovelware)

The thing about the PS3 was yeah it tanked at launch to a certain degree but it looked like they managed to rebound rather quickly when it had a healthy list of titles coming out not long after launch.

This was expected from reading all the chatter before, and during the Wii U launch. People were already disappointed in it before its release and the lack of sales show it. I say its not necessarily a bad system, but business 101 says you cant release hardware without good software to back it up and drive sales, and that is exactly what Nintendo did. I wouldnt be surprised if Nintendo stopped making consoles and focued strictly on its handheld division.

Nice unbiased article, with that "failed" thing at the top. Something of a misrepresentation, too of the quote. You say the person says the unnamed game barely breaks 5 figures. That would be 10,000 with not much on top. Instead, the quote itself says tens of thousands. That isn't barely breaking the 5 figure mark. Very poor sales, yes, but not the same thing.

Completely disagree with you. No specifics were given, so everything was up for everyone's own interpretation. Besides, Jonathan is a Wii U launch owner and has spent countless money on accessories and games for the console. Why would he be biased at all? If there was any spin at all (which there isn't) it would be a favorable spin and not unfavorable.

You are the press, you don't have the right to an opinion.

Isn't it great that first party games (cough NSMBU) don't even support the pro controller.... they force player 2 to use the atrociously uncomfortable sideways wii remote.

I guess if anyone has the right to complain its the guy who currently owns pretty much everything the said console has available.

It's amazing how accurate my predictions for this system have been.

You and thousands of others

Perhaps the idea of releasing a new console so early with the game devs trying to catch up and utilize your hardware is flawed, even just another year for your library to grow would be much more profitable than being the first console of that generation to launch if this is what happens.

I hope Sony and Microsoft take note of this and really pump out the exclusives for their respective console launches.

Will the Wii U be Nintendo's Dreamcast?

Nintendo would have to be bleeding money for that to happen

Yea I agree with wildmario. It wasn't just the Dreamcast that took SEGA down. SEGA had multiple back to back complete failures that finally did them in. The Genesis/Mega Drive and the Game Gear were both successful, but then came string of failures. The SEGA CD, then the CDX, then the 32X, then the Saturn, then the Nomad... all financial disasters. As for Nintendo, even if the Wii U is a complete failure they still have the 3DS XL to keep them afloat.

I'm well aware of why SEGA failed in the console market, but you also have to keep in mind that if the Wii U completely bombs and continues to not sell, Nintendo is going to be in serious trouble. Keep in mind that the 3DS is two and a half years old, and a company the size of Nintendo can't stay afloat with only a handheld market (I mean this in an international sense, I don't think Nintendo will ever cease to be a presence in Japan).

We'll find out in March when their fiscal year ends and they put out their financial reports. All I know is that Nintendo stock is down almost 85% from its high several years ago, and for the last year-and-a-half their losses have been 10-20 times larger than what their projections stated. They might need to go back to being a private company to survive.

I actually owned a Dreamcast since launch and even though it sales were not great, its software library was amazing. At launch it had Sonic Adventure, Aerowings, AirForce Delta, Blue Stinger, Expendable, Flag to Flag, The House of the Dead 2, Hydro Thunder, Monaco Grand Prix, Mortal Kombat Gold, NFL 2K, NFL Blitz 2000, Pen Pen TriIcelon, Power Stone, Ready 2 Rumble Boxing, Soulcalibur, TNN Motorsports Hardcore Heat, Tokyo Xtreme Racer, TrickStyle. The Wii U's launch was sad. And the games that we have too look forward to will just be the same Nintendo always releases with prettier graphics.

I got a Dreamcast for Christmas the year it launched. I still think it was the best console I've ever owned. My brother took it when he moved, so I had to buy a new one, and I still boot up Shenmue and King of Fighters every now and again. eBay has been good to my Dreamcast collection (and wallet).

Nice unbiased article, with that "failed" thing at the top. Something of a misrepresentation, too of the quote. You say the person says the unnamed game barely breaks 5 figures. That would be 10,000 with not much on top. Instead, the quote itself says tens of thousands. That isn't barely breaking the 5 figure mark. Very poor sales, yes, but not the same thing.

Yeah, we got it the first time. Thanks.

Methinks someone is refreshing the article & doesn't know about GR's broke-ass comment function.

The fabled refresh repost

I knew the spin about Nintendo appealing to the more hardcore gamers would never work. I have nothing against them, but let's face it, Wii U is for Nintendo fanboys only. My flatmate bought one on day one & now he's just holding out for another Zelda or Metroid game. AC3 didn't interest him much, too much story. People only buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, so why not cut out the unprofitable consoles from the business model & develop games for the other systems?

In the words of Ducky:

"Yep yep yep yep yep"

Quoting Land Before Time... that gets you a thumbs up.

The picture makes me laugh, looks like he really wants to devour those bananas. To be honest, I had a feeling the Wii U had this coming. There's just no game that makes me want to have one.

I was also thinking, maybe having a number in the console name might have helped.
For some parents out there that don't know anything about consoles and stuff. The Wii and Wii U sounds too similar, maybe having a number would have helped? I don't know, it was just an idea.

All we can really do is wait and see just a tad more. Nintendo could push out all their games within the next 2 years, but everyone knows that they won't just accept Nintendo only games. 3rd parties, will they step up or just flock to the PS4 and Xboxwhatever?

I'm hoping the WiiU does get better over time because I would like to get one, it seems fun and there are a lot of possibilities for games. However, I regret buying a Wii only 6 months after launch. I don't want to do the same with the WiiU.

Maybe Nintendo could benefit by opening the floodgates for indie games which they could sell on their online marketplace. Create some good-will with developers, and crack more heavily into the whole (yuck) "Casual" thing, with that tablet device they have, let Sony and Microsoft duke it out over big-budget stuff.

Nintendo, did I ever tell you the definition, of insanity?

If it was 1999 and you told me Nintendo would be pulling this **** right now I would have called you a fool, but times change apparently

When everyone ran out and bought a WiiU on launch I laughed and said everyone was wasting their money...I was right! I have a friend who already traded in their WiiU and got a 3DS and 2 games instead. The WiiU is a nice console with fun features, but devs aren't biting.

Indeed it does!

I also confirm this. I am loving the **** out of it.

I have a PC & 3DS for my gaming needs, and that works for me. The 3DS is for my Nintendo fix and the PC is for playing everything else.

Meh, Whats Surprise about this at all? This happened the last time when the 3DS first came out nothing was out for it and now it's a solid hand held. Give the system a year and It'll be decent if not solid. ;/ Also hey I joined a year ago. Fancy.

Ugh typing on the phone ;/

So the guys who made "Jackass: The Game" says the Wii U is in trouble? Hmm... I think I'd wait until Nintendo release their annual report on April. More likely, the Wii U is doing better than the GCN but it's lower than what Nintendo is expecting.

Things may not look the greatest right now, but I'm sure Nintendo will bounce back. I don't think Nintendo's going under anytime soon... they have a solid handheld market and they make money from franchises like Pokemon which I believe is still pretty big.

I haven't bought the Wii U yet because I am waiting for more, but in time I'm sure I'll pick one up.

I have been gaming for 25+ years. I know how heavy the name "Nintendo" is, or rather used to be. These are the guys who pulled gaming from the brink in the 80's. These are the guys who I had the biggest game library for(89 carts). And I was there hopping over my backyard porch, risking injury just to play the SNES when it released and my next door neighbor was the first on the block with it. Nothing can never change those halcyon days when Nintendo was u disputed in my heart. But then as I got older and the N64 was released, I wondered why would the big N not use the superior CD format... And the GC was a mystery to me later on down the road. Fast forward to the Wii days and I was shocked! Was I really to expect that me waving my arms in front of my TV is what the next best thing was? Sure if all studios had the design genius of Miyamoto to tap from, I would be hopeful, but alas, reality isn't as kind. But lo and behold, Nintendo pulled in a new crowd and left people like me in the

Dust. Today. The old stalwart releases a system which ATM is on par with the current competition... And I'm left to wonder... Why would you make your system slightly more powerful than machines that are at retirements door? This translates into another machine receiving the SAME multiplatform games the other 2 have... No neckbreaking first party titles to sway me over to the Nintendo side... -sigh- this is where I must stand up and say "sorry old boy... You ****** up this time. You left your core audience behind with your last machine, and this one isn't good enough to win us back..."

Maybe it's time to tell the former king that his time in the home console arena has come to a end. He's not even a contender at this point and time

i don't have a Wii U so i don't know what there like but i never gave up on my 3DS i got at midnight launch. one of the best resident evil games since resident evil 4 came out on it plus great games like fire emblem awakening but it took a year and a price drop for people to buy it. i would like to have a Wii U but more games have to come out. Xbox 360 is still my choice console